Ideas for a hard use field knife

Thanks to all who gave me some ideas and blades to consider. I found some extremely talented makers I didn’t know existed! I think I’ll try to get my hands on a CPK field knife and I have found some custom makers I was not previously familiar with that do some excellent work. Exactly what I hoped to get out of this post! Thanks again to all and don’t hesitate to keep adding ideas, I’m always interested in finding out about different blades and makers.
 
R rollintent I eventually will probably get one of the CPK knives. Glad you found the thread useful. You got the confirmation that you were probably seeking about your original choice and potentially exposed to other knives in the process.
 
I bought a Benchmade 162 Bushcrafter as my go to fixed blade and have been very happy with it (not the sheath).

However, I don’t think I would do it again. Survive! makes a nice knife but, as a company, they have become a little flaky. They’re out. Bark River is also out.

For me, that leaves CPK. Their EDC fixed blade is on my list. So is their Field Knife. People also speak highly of their heavy duty field knife.

Another fixed blade that I like is Boker’s field butcher.
 
'Hard use' is relative. I'm of the opinion that cutting technique is more important than any other factor in getting a knife job done. With that in mind, I believe I've found my 'one knife solution' for all foreseeable jobs that wouldn't be better served with a tomahawk or dedicated chopper. The Sendero Classic, from White River Knives. Jerry Fisk design, S35VN blade, Richlite (paper micarta) handle on mine, hand-rubbed finish, and a very nice sheath. Not cheap, but worth every penny, in my opinion. And, it's the antithesis of the 'sharpened pry bar' school of survival knives. This, a Becker BK-5(another Fisk design), and a 2Hawks Warbeast tomahawk should be adequate for anything I'm likely to encounter.
 
For a knife to just beat the heck out of in the field, I'd take my Glock 78 or 81. The 78 is just pain edged and the 81 also has a saw back. I've got both and prefer the 78.

They're made of HRC 55 spring steel. Easy to sharpen w/anything you've got handy and durable enough to chop, cut pretty much whatever you come across. Just keep the blade dry/oiled and it'll do fine and, if it breaks (unlikely), it's cheap and easily replaced.

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Of course, this isn't the only knife I'd carry. I'd also carry a hatchet and a striker (if I wasn't carrying a camp stove), a SAK Explorer, a Gerber multi-tool and a corrosion resistant food prep knife like the SpydieChef.
 
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And, it's the antithesis of the 'sharpened pry bar' school of survival knives.

By this do you mean a big knife with around a 10" blade that can do just about everything, from chopping wood to delicate tasks (using a finger choil) such as field-dressing game, cleaning fish, and food prep?
 
Oh, of course I should mention Dawson Knives out of Prescott Valley, Arizona. Good knife people, practical designs and tough steel. They should definitely be on your radar for hard use fixed blades.
 
'Hard use' is relative. I'm of the opinion that cutting technique is more important than any other factor in getting a knife job done.

I know what you’re say about the relativity factor. I think for me it means a knife that will be used a lot possibly and so needs to hold a usable edge as long as possible without needing to be sharpened just in case time or availability of sharpening equipment becomes a problem. Also it’s a knife that I wouldn’t intend to do much if any chopping or batoning but is more than capable without fear of failure or at least give the highest probability it won’t fail when put to these uses. To me a hard use blade is one that gives the best chance of being put to hard “unconventional” use and continuing to be capable of doing all the things that a knife would be more “typically” used for Such as skinning/quartering game. Cutting rope, twine, cardboard etc, making feather sticks, shavings for tinder, opening food packages (not cans unless absolute emergency). So a hard use knife to me might be defined as a knife that gives me the best chance of using it for tough uses in a unexpected situation and resists degradation in efficiency as a cutting tool to the highest extent possible! I think the fun part for all of us is trying to define their perfect knife for the environment. I have two environments I employ knives. #1 In my day to day life where a pocket/folding knife or relatively small fixed blade Serves my balance of needs where I’m at worst case scenario hours away from a replacement knife and sharpening equipment, #2 in the woods or back country where I may or may not be able to have replacement blades and or sharpening equipment available or able to take the time to use sharpening equipment at the most convenient time. So maybe a hard use knife as I define it is a knife that needs the least care and maintenance in any given situation and is able to maintain integrity as an efficient cutting tool!
 
There are too many good blades in that size range to tell anyone what exactly to choose. For an allround fixed blade I'd just say, pick a good reliable steel that is easy to sharpen in the field, not thinner than 3 mm and not thicker than 4 mm, with a fairly high grind so it will slice well enough. Sharpened prybars with obtuse scandi grinds are horrible with tomatoes and carrots, and in the end you will use it a lot for preparing food. It should be as tough as possible without being too soft, which for me means a high-carbon tool steel. None of that nonsense of 'it's better because it will bend, not break'. It should do neither during hard use (not abuse!).

If I would mention a specific brand/model from my own little arsenal, I would take my Terava Jääkkäripuukko 140. Pretty much indestructible and still very useable for large and smaller tasks down to food prep. I use it for delimbing, making pointed sticks, kindling, scraping off paint and moss, searching for chestnuts and wriggling them open on the ground, clearing away vines, whatever. It will cut bread and butter it, too. And pry out U-shaped nails of the kind used for barbed wire. Or dig out a root without any parmanent damage to the blade.
If 140 mm is a bit too long and you want a more rakish tip, from my small pack it would then be the Peltonen M07 Ranger, Mark 2 in 80CrV2 tool steel, 4 mm thick like the Terava but a higher grind so a better food slicer/hunting knife I guess.
Otherwise I'd invest in a decent Finnish-built short 5 to 6-inch leuku with a nice stabilized curly birch handle and a blade by Laurin from 80CrV2. Just for the looks and the classic leather sheath.

Concerning US made blades I can't give any advice whatsoever. None of the above are very expensive, you would have enough for a second blade, as one is zero and two is one. If you want a two-blade system, get a matching set of a short puukko and a leuku in a combined double sheath. Or a US made alternative to that.

Have fun. ;-)
 
There are too many good blades in that size range to tell anyone what exactly to choose. For an allround fixed blade I'd just say, pick a good reliable steel that is easy to sharpen in the field, not thinner than 3 mm and not thicker than 4 mm, with a fairly high grind so it will slice well enough. Sharpened prybars with obtuse scandi grinds are horrible with tomatoes and carrots, and in the end you will use it a lot for preparing food. It should be as tough as possible without being too soft, which for me means a high-carbon tool steel. None of that nonsense of 'it's better because it will bend, not break'. It should do neither during hard use (not abuse!).


Have fun. ;-)

That's the approach I should have taken. I think that's what intended was to find the optimal steel to balance toughness and edge holding to suit the use then find makers that have heat treat down to a science and are proven. Then find a blade with dimensions and handle design that suits my preferences.
 
MtnHawk1, for me it's less about the length of the blade, and more about the thickness, and the height of the primary grind. Five inch blades, 1 inch wide and a quarter inch thick, with a saber grind, are going to be plenty tough, and I have some of those! I have knives that I can hammer into a tree and use as a step, if need be. But, recently my focus has been thinner, slicier blades. Thus, cutting (and sharpening) technique becomes more important than brute strength. I keep a tomahawk around for the really tough stuff. IF I can remember to grab it going out the door as the world is coming to an end!
 
I have an ESEE 4 and 6. Im hoping to find that little extra edge in edge holding if possible.

I believe there is a bit more to be had but if you go very far to gain more edge holding you start to compromise toughness. Lots of people are mentioning knives in 3V which might gain better edgeholding but keep good toughness. A2 and O1 are popular but I don't know if they will be better than the ESEE in either toughness or edgeholding.
 
Spyderco Mule team #27 PD #1 micro-melt steel. Cruwear basically. Yes, you have to put a handle and sheath together but that's part of the fun.
 
justjed, this thread is about field knives, which are usually considered to be in the 3"-5" blade range, so I won't get further into big wood-chopping knives. I just wanted to mention how important and versatile they can be, especially in a survival or emergency situation where a person might only have one knife and/or for some reason cannot carry, or does not have access to, a heavier and bulkier edged tool such as an axe, hatchet, or tomahawk. I almost always carry two or more knives, including Leathermans, in the wilderness but, unless it's just a day hike, one of them is always a big wood-chopping knife, just in case something unpleasant and unanticipated happens.
 
Give me ideas for a "If I only had one knife forever" fixed blade for hunting/big game processing, bushcraft tasks, general use, what I would realistically carry on a backwoods hunting trip, hiking/backpacking adventure. I would like to keep the blade somewhere over 3.5" and under 5.5". Im willing to spend some bucks and go full custom if need be to get a very high quality knife. I'm more of a quality before quantity guy. I'm looking for something that's going to have the best blend of toughness and edge holding capabilities available. Looking for a knife that will have tightly controlled heat treat processes and high performance steel. A knife that I've looked at so far is Carothers field knife. Id like to stay somewhere above the ESEE's and K-bars.

I have one knife that does it all. Coldsteel 4Max!

 
Really easy! Go custom and talk with Fredrik Haakonsen. I doubt there’s a tighter heat treat control than his anywhere in the World. He can control every step of knifemaking, since the making of the steel in the mill (he’s a PHD Metallurgist) to his high standards, the rolling to his desired thickness, the blanks cut parallel to the rolling direction of the steel and all the rest of the making. Want every step of your future knife optimized to the extreme? Fredrik is the guy you want. But don’t expect he sells all his expertise “for free”!

Give me ideas for a "If I only had one knife forever" fixed blade for hunting/big game processing, bushcraft tasks, general use, what I would realistically carry on a backwoods hunting trip, hiking/backpacking adventure. I would like to keep the blade somewhere over 3.5" and under 5.5". Im willing to spend some bucks and go full custom if need be to get a very high quality knife. I'm more of a quality before quantity guy. I'm looking for something that's going to have the best blend of toughness and edge holding capabilities available. Looking for a knife that will have tightly controlled heat treat processes and high performance steel. A knife that I've looked at so far is Carothers field knife. Id like to stay somewhere above the ESEE's and K-bars.
 
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