Ideas for a PSK bag?

I like this pack and am looking at it as a first aid/survival module for my SAR pack but it seems a small, to me, for a stand alone pack even for a day hike.

I usually take along hydration, camera, binoculars, and mabey a feild guide (birds, plants etc.) aside from Survival supplies. Mabey i just carry too much crap.

I usually go between a small Hydration Pack or a lumbar but pack.

I have been drawn to lumbar but packs as of late especially the Mountain Smith ones. Their strapet accessory makes them about the most comfortable carry ive ever found. These bags are really versitile they can be carried as a shoulder(man purse) bag in urban environs and used either just with the belt or with the shoulder straps for heavier loads.


I just came back from a trip to florida and my lumbar pack was my carry on for the flights to and from as well as going on a day hike and was carried all day at a theme park. I had room for water, 2 cameras, papers, fist aid kit, a nylon rain jacket, a boonie hat, and still had room for souveniers. I used it as a shoulder bag on the plane, with the belt and straps for hiking, and with the shoulder straps alone for the theme park.


Check www.campmor.com
They have great close outs on last years models often for half price or less
 
I've been eying one these for a while:

http://www.uscav.com/Productinfo.aspx?productid=5973&TabID=1&CatID=59

Because it can hang low on the belt, it won't interfere with backpack hipstraps while hiking.

I would just hang it on the hip strap unless I was off from camp or crossing a stream. I danced around several zippered bags like this and I have a small collection of them from thrift stores and garage sales. Eagle Creek makes a bunch if you want more sheeple looking ones. I do like the Black Hawk line in general. There are a bunch of the tactical gear outfits that make zippered pouches that will fit in your cargo pockets, etc. For city stuff, I've thought about using a gutted PDA case or a zippered DayTimer. You could walk down the street with a DayTimer in your hand with a real arsenal in it and no one would look twice. There are umpteen million camera cases that could be used too.

For me, it comes down to ultra basic or the kitchen sink. I've danced around spartan neck chain rigs too-- fire steel, compass, whistle and knife. It is all a game of getting down to the rock bottom essentials and a container that we can live with.
 
I've been thinking about going with a small bag and had a question for you guys. How do you carry water? Or do you?
 
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Well, for a personal survival kit, it all depends. How personal is it?
If this is a psk holder, (ie equipment bag) then id go with something you can hump on your back.
I use a camelbak motherlode. I chose this because its main intention was to hold water, then on top of that, cargo as well. Alot of us used this in the desert, cuz of course, water is your main ingredient. I wasnt too confident, in a cargo pack, with a separate water bladder holder as an option, instead of a mainstay. This was essential to me, cuz i had over 50 grand worth of radio equipment in my pack, that could ABSOLUTELY not get wet should my bladder leak. So I chose a pack that was specifically designed for water carrying. I use od green, cuz of the enviroment in iraq we worked in. If this bag was going to see civilian duty, dont get any sort of camoflage, cuz (i know this is a stretch, but always a consideration with me) in a 'red dawn' type enviroment, camo packs attract attention, when coming back into town for more supplies. solid colors look more like school backpacks more than anything. less attention the better. also, with a 'over the shoulder' type pack, running with it would hinder you. itll flop all over the place, and could potentially get caught on things while in an urban setting as well.
Plus with an assault pack like the camelbak, you have some space in there, to throw some things you may have collected on the way too. thats another thing to consider.
 
as far as carrying water. depends on what sort of psk this is. is this one you only keep at the house, and can grab at a seconds notice? will this be the only bag you grab? or is this a little one you carry around from time to time.

for a real survival kit, i carry with me out in the weeds, depending on the length, ill carry military issue stuff. a pilots water bag, water pur tabs, some mainstay water bags, a compressed dehydrated sponge, a condom, or a pilots flask. if its a long term deal, ill grab the kit thats contained in my camelbak m.u.l.e. and just fill up the bladder in there and go.
 
as far as carrying water. depends on what sort of psk this is. is this one you only keep at the house, and can grab at a seconds notice? will this be the only bag you grab? or is this a little one you carry around from time to time.

for a real survival kit, i carry with me out in the weeds, depending on the length, ill carry military issue stuff. a pilots water bag, water pur tabs, some mainstay water bags, a compressed dehydrated sponge, a condom, or a pilots flask. if its a long term deal, ill grab the kit thats contained in my camelbak m.u.l.e. and just fill up the bladder in there and go.

I'm talking a day hike on popular trails or parks, special events(air show) etc. It would be a PSK for first aid and some other small stuff.
 
ahh an airshow or such. (im a big fan of air shows incedentally.)
Well if this is an informal, overt kit, i would do a light coloured (dark colored camelbaks roast their water in the summer. well at least in iraq they did)
camelback. and be cognizant of the filler cap diameter. get the larger ones. the smaller ones dont allow standard issue ice cubes to fit. :) get a mule. its JUST big enough, to throw some crap in, but not too big to be a hassle on a bus, or something like that. you dont want to look like a paratrooper stuck in a C130 with 120lbs of rucksack and shit in his lap lol.
In your light coloured mule, you can throw some provodone iodine wipes, some 2x2's and 4x4's (gauze pads) a little provodone iodine bottle (for irrigating small cuts, instead of wiping over them with a pad) bandaids, med tape, excedrin, etc etc. You know, immediate meds for civilian scrapes, abrasions and minor lacerations. a signal mirror, whistle, button compass, (in case youre not good at direction finding, its common) led light, bug juice, sun screen, insect headnet, space blanket, enerjets, (any small hard candy) match case with lifeboat matches, pencil flame lighter, and pocket binos.
These are some of the things you may stuff in there, for an air show. a whistle or mirror for getting the attention of a family member thats run off to the other side of the show, and the rest is well, pretty self explanatory. Its what i would take. plus a whole 100 litres of ice water :)
 
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