If a knife is very expensive you will choose to buy fake?

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I see your location is in China, so I think I would be safe in assuming your question is to really to find out how successful you would be in making a clone of an expensive knife and selling it.

Instead of focusing on producing a clone, why not come up with your own design and put more emphasis on the QUALITY of construction and materials used in the product you are producing. If the quality is there, the majority of people would be willing to pay for your work, regardless of where it was made. Look at the iphone for example: over 250 million have been sold and ALL were made in China. People still buy it partly, because of the quality of manufacturing.

Just my opinion and personal advice. The majority of "expensive" knives are expensive because they (the manufacturer) made the decision to use high quality materials and have very stringent quality control in place.

The main reason people don't like items made in China is because they lack quality in both materials and construction. Why not take this opportunity and turn that around?

By the way, the paramount factor why people would refuse to buy a clone (regardless of quality) is the fact that it is a clone. Knife collectors tend to be some of the loyalist and supportive people when it comes to designers and manufacturers. When you clone something, you are ripping off the designer and the manufacturer for your own profit.

I assume you're in a position to manufacturer knives on a somewhat medium to large scale. You have no idea how I often wish I had access to the materials and equipment to do something like that.

Put something original and high quality out there, and you may be surprised how collectors and enthusiasts will recognize and recommend your product. To prove my point, you could come up with something and submit it to the pass around forum/circuit available on this forum where you can get some hands-on and honest feedback.

Making and selling clones may be a successful, albeit illegal, venture for you, but I doubt it would be as successful as designing and selling your own high-quality ORIGINAL work. Plus, you would definitely create brand loyalty with repeat customers. I think I've said enough on this point.

In case english isn't your first or native language, I translated what I wrote above into Chinese. I'm not trying to insult you, I just really want my point to get across:

我看到你的位置是在中国，所以我想我会假设你的问题是安全的，是要真正找出如何成功，你会在做克隆昂贵的刀和销售。

而不是专注于制造克隆，为什么不上来，用自己的设计，施工和材料的质量，所生产的产品在使用上更加重视。如果质量是存在的，大多数人会愿意付出，为您的工作，不管它被提出。只是我的意见和个人的意见。大部分“昂贵”的刀是昂贵的，因为他们（生产厂家）决定使用高品质的材料，有非常严格的质量控制到位。

人不喜欢中国制造的项目，主要的原因是因为他们缺乏在材料和施工质量。为什么不利用这个机会，反过来看？

顺便说一下，为什么人们会拒绝购买的克隆​​（无论质量）的最重要的因素是事实，即它是一个克隆。刀收藏家往往是一些的勤王支持的人，当它涉及到设计者和制造商。当你克隆的东西，你剥去设计师和制造商为自己的利润。

我假设你的位置有点大中型制造商的刀。你有没有想法如何，我常希望自己获得的材料和设备，做这样的事情。

把原创的东西和高品质的有，你可能会惊讶的是，收藏家和爱好者将承认并推荐你的产品。为了证明我的观点，你可以拿出的东西，并提交给周围的通论坛/​​电路可以在这个论坛上，在这里你可以得到一些动手和诚实的反馈。

制作和销售克隆可能会成为一个成功的，尽管是非法的，为您的企业，但我怀疑这将是成功的，因为设计和销售自己的高品质的原创作品。另外，你一定会创造品牌的忠诚度与回头客。我想我已经说得够多了这一点。

在情况下，英语不是你的第一或母语，我翻译到中国上面我写的。我不是想侮辱你，我真的不想越过我的观点：
 
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Never. Fake people buy fake goods.

If it's something you really want, work hard, save your money and have pride of ownership everytime you pull it out of your pocket.
 
MDQBox said it very well. I will not buy a fake of a quality product to save money, ill get the real deal or ill go without. However if you made an original design with good steel and quality workmanship I would consider it even though I typically avoid Chinese made products because the quality is poor. From your pictures in other posts it appears you are capable of quality work so keep the quality, come up with an original design and have the price point that the Chinese products are famous for and you will have a winner with people who need to save the coin. Your product does not have to be an outright copy to target the same type of knife user.
 
Shenny said:
If a knife is very expensive you will choose to buy fake?
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In a nutshell?
No.
Nobody wants some crappy rip off of a great knife.
So the question is, exactly what knife are you ripping off?
 
Shenny said:
If a knife is very expensive you will choose to buy fake?
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Why? A particular knife isn't something I have to have to live. If I can't justify spending what the real thing costs I just don't buy it and furthermore your fake isn't the real deal so just where's the satisfaction in owning it?
 
Two of the knives i want more then anything (when it come to knives) is a Benchmade model 42 gold and the model 49, most likely i will never get them, but would i buy a "ripoff" ? Not in a milion years, even if it was identical to the real deal down to a molecular level would i knowingly buy a known fake.
 
Virre87 said:
Two of the knives i want more then anything (when it come to knives) is a Benchmade model 42 gold and the model 49, most likely i will never get them, but would i buy a "ripoff" ? Not in a milion years, even if it was identical to the real deal down to a molecular level would i knowingly buy a known fake.
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Well, you do have two kidneys, but you can survive on just one. Just sayin...
 
Copies as in fakes with the legit manufacture's name...No. Knives that have similarities to other knives but have Chinese manufacture's name, such as Enlan, Navy, Ganzo etc...Yes.
 
People,

The topic of counterfeit knives -- be they from China or Pakistan or America or anywhere else -- is a legitimate topic and we should be able to discuss it in a civil way without hurling insults. Whether you like 'em or hate 'em, these knives are in the market and we need to discuss them in a thoughtful and meaningful way. If you can't do that, then please go somewhere else because in that case YOU become the troll.
 
The real truth is that there are a lot of people out there that do and will buy those knives, if they didn't there wouldn't be a market for them and as most of us know there is a huge market.

It's a very big world out there outside of BF....
 
As to the original question, my personal answer is no, I do not buy counterfeit or "homage" products.

I try to be thoughtful in how I spend my money. It's about more than filling my belly... or my knife drawer. Professionally, I am a new-product developer and an engineer, designer, and inventor. I make my money creating new products. And so I understand especially the damage that counterfeit products do. I also understand wha it takes to create a new product... and it's not just money; we pour our lives, our emotions, our sweat, our tears, our blood (sometimes figuratively and sometimes literally) into our products. Our products become our children in a way. And so I will not spend my money supporting and rewarding that.

When you spend your money, you are rewarding the chain that brought the product to you. I like to be thoughtful about who I reward and why.
 
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