If a knife is very expensive you will choose to buy fake?

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NO!! There is a similar letter in the new Watch magazine issue, where someone says he buys fake watches because he can afford genuine ones. I say, save your money until you CAN buy a genuine watch or knife.

There is a difference in quality and F&F. If you buy fakes, you care only about owning the "name", not the true, finely crafted object.
 
I think it's pretty safe to say that most people on here appreciate a quality piece of work that has been produced with time and effort.
How can you appreciate a fake? I guess imitation is said to be the sincerest form of flattery, but when you are stealing someone's hard work, it's a slap in the face.
You have the means to produce your own knives so do it!
Produce your OWN knives.
Sorry if I am assuming you are asking because you make them, if it is just a general question, then please take no offence.
 
Locutus D'Borg said:
If you buy fakes, you care only about owning the "name", not the true, finely crafted object.
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Not necessarily. Some folks might buy fakes because they think the originals are absurdly overpriced. I'll give you an example.

I bought a Schrade SCHF2 because I wanted to get the feel of an integral hollow-handled knife without paying CRK prices. Nice thing about that is the fact that I bought it AFTER CRK stopped producing integral hollow-handled knives. So clearly I wasn't taking food away from Chris's family by doing that. AFAIC, no harm, no foul. And oh, by the way, the SCHF2 is a helluva knife for the money.
 
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Ankerson said:
I think it's kinda funny some of the responses here because we don't represent the majority of knife buyers, not even close in the real world.
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He asked if we on BF would buy them. He didnt ask us if we thought others would buy them.

If he had asked about what non knifenuts may buy the responces would be different, but he didn't ask that.
 
But if they think a knife is absurdly overpriced, why don't they buy a licensed knife with similar design, for example, instead of a Hinderer XM-18, buy a ZT 0560. No, they want people to think they own a genuine XM-18, so they buy a fake one. Just my opinion.

bld522 said:
Not necessarily. Some folks might buy fakes because they think the originals are absurdly overpriced.
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If you buy a $9.95 knife at the gas station here in America, know this:

The gas station made $5 on that knife. That's a typical retail markup. That's what pays the clerk, lights and air-conditions the store, pays all of the taxes, etc.

The importer made $2.50. He has a warehouse and employees and bills to pay and the tax man at his door too.

It cost $1.50 to truck the knife from the factory in Rehla Rehla Bahd to the dock in Nounderstan, on the good ship Lee Key from Nohunderstan to Port of Los Angeles, and then from the dock to the warehouse in Compton.

The factory owner back in Rehla Rehla Bahd makes 50 cents profit. Truth be known, he's the only one getting rich on this deal.

And that leaves 45 cents for the total-manufactured-cost which materials, labor, and overhead.

45 cents is what the knife is really worth.

And you're surprised that the washers aren't Teflon, the mother-of-pearl is plastic, the blade which is marked 154CM is actually made of recycled folding chairs, and the heat-treatment consisted of the lack of air conditioning in the factory. And the 78-year old woman who barely supports herself on what she earns as the quality control inspector has never seen an optometrist in her life.

So, now that you know what you're getting for your $9.95, 45-cents worth of knife, do you still want it?

As my sainted father used to say, "Buy quality and you'll only cry once."

The joy of low price is quickly forgotten amidst the disappointment and frustration of low quality.
 
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Locutus D'Borg said:
But if they think a knife is absurdly overpriced, why don't they buy a licensed knife with similar design, for example, instead of a Hinderer XM-18, buy a ZT 0560. No, they want people to think they own a genuine XM-18, so they buy a fake one. Just my opinion.
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I'm not sure I agree with you. I think most people who buy fakes know they're buying fakes. And, of course, we'll never know how many try to pass them off as the real thing. Certainly some folks will. But I doubt all of them will. And if I were to buy a fake, I most certainly would NOT pass it off as the genuine article. I'd buy it strictly for my own edification and amusement.
 
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Hmmmm. I'm not sure I agree with that either. Sometimes you get more than you pay for and sometimes you get less.
 
Gollnick said:
the washers aren't Teflon, the mother-of-pearl is plastic, the blade which is marked 154CM is actually made of recycled folding chairs, and the heat-treatment consisted of the lack of air conditioning in the factory.
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Absolutely love it. :D
 
bld522 said:
Hmmmm. I'm not sure I agree with that either . . .
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Ok, how about "You usually get what you pay for"?
Sure you can get ripped off, but when you buy cheap crap, you get...cheap crap.

The dollar store doesn't have high quality items. ;)
 
stabman said:
Ok, how about "You usually get what you pay for"?
Sure you can get ripped off, but when you buy cheap crap, you get...cheap crap.

The dollar store doesn't have high quality items. ;)
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Exactly my point...;)
 
I would never buy a cheap fake. Knives that are expensive are always, in my experience, expensive for a reason. They use high cost materials, and are made very precisely.
 
stabman said:
Ok, how about "You usually get what you pay for"?
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That's better. Of course, doing a little homework, learning the art of skillful negotiation, and being in the right place at the right time can vastly improve your odds of getting more than you paid for. ;)
 
IMO the only reason for knowingly buying a fake ANYTHING is to impress other people and if your personality requires that then I pity you. You do not enjoy the pride of ownership that the genuine article brings and have paid for something that is valueless on the used market if you choose to sell it, if recognized as a fake. If you sell it as genuine when knowing it is counterfeit then you are a thief.

I have always felt sorry for knowing purchasers of fake Rolex watches and similar trash and feel the same about counterfeit knives. Even sorrier though for the unknowing purchasers of such junk and feel that the manufacturers of such counterfeit items should be jailed.

China can produce quality items. I have a couple of Chinese made digital calipers sold here under the "iGaging" name and they are accurate and as well machined as my Mitutoyo digital caliper. The big problem with Chinese export goods is that the quality varies from good to total crap and the crap causes buyers to percieve all Chinese goods as shoddy. China needs to adopt the Japanese manufacturer quality attitude that they adopted after WWII with strong government encouragement.
 
Part of the reason I buy expensive knives is the quality of the materials. The other reason is quality of manufacturing. So, no I will to buy a knock off because that defeats the purpose of buying a nice knife in the first place. It also hurts makers that worked hard to come up with a design that is original and people want.
So short answer: NEVER
 
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