If had to have just ONE Becker...?

Jay's got a point. Choppin' is part of it.

I would want the largest knife I could carry and use.

BK9. Or a BK2.

Moose
 
Moosez45 said:
Jay's got a point. Choppin' is part of it.

I would want the largest knife I could carry and use.

BK9. Or a BK2.

Moose
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the very real fear of needing to spoon with rescueriley and tonym also is a strong motivator to chop enough firewood so it doesn't ever have to come to that :eek::D
 
first off, chopping wood into pretty picture ''firewood'' takes energy...energy=Life in an emergency. I'd make a ''wheelspoke'' fire or break the limbs over a rock or tree fork. only woodcutting I wld be doing wld be for kindling (which is batoning not chopping) and for traps or shelter components.
 
JV3 said:
the very real fear of needing to spoon with rescueriley and tonym also is a strong motivator to chop enough firewood so it doesn't ever have to come to that :eek::D
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Motivation, yeah, you got it.

How's tony and RR been, I ain't heard from them lately. Especially Tony.

TB, you are most correct. In a true "survival" situation, its a numbers game. How much out, how much in, get the most work for your energy spent.

Cold is bad, but freezing is worse. I like the pull or long fire technique. Rick Marchand has a couple of vids on them, they are very efficient, and work well. Just to support Rick some, he goes out training in subfreezing weather. Canadians, what can you do.

It takes more energy to make a little knife work up to a big knife, but not so much making a big knife work down to a small knife.

Moose
 
Bk19 as well

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Only one Becker? Fine!

I choose Ethan Becker. He can then make whatever I need.

I win.
 
thrillbilly said:
first off, chopping wood into pretty picture ''firewood'' takes energy...energy=Life in an emergency. I'd make a ''wheelspoke'' fire or break the limbs over a rock or tree fork. only woodcutting I wld be doing wld be for kindling (which is batoning not chopping) and for traps or shelter components.
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agreed with regards to minimizing chopping. i hate it (i prefer long fires/indian fire/wheelspoke/etc.as much as possible) that's why i always bring the best cutter with me whenever i can (full size axe or saw these days). given that he mentioned alaska though, snow easily buries what small, dried kindling that's on the ground. what will be left are big trees (dead standing or big enough that the snow hasn't covered it entirely). whether there is kindling or not, those logs will need to be sectioned either way. i have yet to see someone actually post pics of a trip where they stayed plenty warm in sub-freezing temps with nothing but wood they gathered/broke over a rock and no logs being chopped. even in the kifaru forum (those guys are filled with big game hunters in alaska) where they pack a tipi and stove (most are ultralighters for obvious reasons), they all carry saws for wood processing/heat. the magical pile of wood already found conveniently in nature just waiting to be picked up almost never happens.

mors kochanski is a minimalist that'll put most ultralighters to shame and i'm sure he tried to get away with just his mora and as little chopping as possible. but even he conceded, if he had to pick one cutting tool, he'd pick the axe. the closest available becker to the axe is the bk-9 currently and that's why i chose that. i'm sure you'll agree, from an experienced eyes it's easy to spot others trying to fake it. i guess my original post's intent is to spur others for a little actual field testing of their beliefs first before giving advice (whether it agrees with mine or not is not important, as long as it came from actual experience) :) maybe i'll rile enough members to prove me wrong that there'll be even more posts of beckers being used? i'm sneaky that way. heh.


Moosez45 said:
Motivation, yeah, you got it.

How's tony and RR been, I ain't heard from them lately. Especially Tony.

TB, you are most correct. In a true "survival" situation, its a numbers game. How much out, how much in, get the most work for your energy spent.

Cold is bad, but freezing is worse. I like the pull or long fire technique. Rick Marchand has a couple of vids on them, they are very efficient, and work well. Just to support Rick some, he goes out training in subfreezing weather. Canadians, what can you do.

It takes more energy to make a little knife work up to a big knife, but not so much making a big knife work down to a small knife.

Moose
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tony has all but disappeared from here actually. i'm hoping he's just too busy with all his scandi grind customs to hang with us cavemen with our v-grinds and whatnot. riley is too busy with school (for nursing degree) and our schedule haven't sync'd up long enough to do an overnighter lately...i'm planning a nj/ny beckerhead/rat pack camp out sometime in april so i'll do my best to round up those guys. there might be a few busse guys too so it's a chance to lure them into the coated blade dark side :D
 
JV3 said:
agreed with regards to minimizing chopping. i hate it (i prefer long fires/indian fire/wheelspoke/etc.as much as possible) that's why i always bring the best cutter with me whenever i can (full size axe or saw these days). given that he mentioned alaska though, snow easily buries what small, dried kindling that's on the ground. what will be left are big trees (dead standing or big enough that the snow hasn't covered it entirely). whether there is kindling or not, those logs will need to be sectioned either way. i have yet to see someone actually post pics of a trip where they stayed plenty warm in sub-freezing temps with nothing but wood they gathered/broke over a rock and no logs being chopped. even in the kifaru forum (those guys are filled with big game hunters in alaska) where they pack a tipi and stove (most are ultralighters for obvious reasons), they all carry saws for wood processing/heat. the magical pile of wood already found conveniently in nature just waiting to be picked up almost never happens.

mors kochanski is a minimalist that'll put most ultralighters to shame and i'm sure he tried to get away with just his mora and as little chopping as possible. but even he conceded, if he had to pick one cutting tool, he'd pick the axe. the closest available becker to the axe is the bk-9 currently and that's why i chose that. i'm sure you'll agree, from an experienced eyes it's easy to spot others trying to fake it. i guess my original post's intent is to spur others for a little actual field testing of their beliefs first before giving advice (whether it agrees with mine or not is not important, as long as it came from actual experience) :) maybe i'll rile enough members to prove me wrong that there'll be even more posts of beckers being used? i'm sneaky that way. heh.




tony has all but disappeared from here actually. i'm hoping he's just too busy with all his scandi grind customs to hang with us cavemen with our v-grinds and whatnot. riley is too busy with school (for nursing degree) and our schedule haven't sync'd up long enough to do an overnighter lately...i'm planning a nj/ny beckerhead/rat pack camp out sometime in april so i'll do my best to round up those guys. there might be a few busse guys too so it's a chance to lure them into the coated blade dark side :D
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Good points, brother.

I figured Tony would be busy with the new addition for a while. :D Good to hear about John getting back to school, I know its gotta be hectic.

Lure them, lure them all. :D

I won't derail any further,

BK9. Or a BK2.

:D

Moose
 
JV3 said:
agreed with regards to minimizing chopping. i hate it (i prefer long fires/indian fire/wheelspoke/etc.as much as possible) that's why i always bring the best cutter with me whenever i can (full size axe or saw these days). given that he mentioned alaska though, snow easily buries what small, dried kindling that's on the ground. what will be left are big trees (dead standing or big enough that the snow hasn't covered it entirely). whether there is kindling or not, those logs will need to be sectioned either way. i have yet to see someone actually post pics of a trip where they stayed plenty warm in sub-freezing temps with nothing but wood they gathered/broke over a rock and no logs being chopped. even in the kifaru forum (those guys are filled with big game hunters in alaska) where they pack a tipi and stove (most are ultralighters for obvious reasons), they all carry saws for wood processing/heat. the magical pile of wood already found conveniently in nature just waiting to be picked up almost never happens.

mors kochanski is a minimalist that'll put most ultralighters to shame and i'm sure he tried to get away with just his mora and as little chopping as possible. but even he conceded, if he had to pick one cutting tool, he'd pick the axe. the closest available becker to the axe is the bk-9 currently and that's why i chose that. i'm sure you'll agree, from an experienced eyes it's easy to spot others trying to fake it. i guess my original post's intent is to spur others for a little actual field testing of their beliefs first before giving advice (whether it agrees with mine or not is not important, as long as it came from actual experience) :) maybe i'll rile enough members to prove me wrong that there'll be even more posts of beckers being used? i'm sneaky that way. heh.
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He asked what Becker I would take, I only own the 2 and 14, Ive never used the other beckers so I aint hazzarding opinions on them. I still stand by my statement that I would trust the 2 with my life, I never said it was the best...just that I have used it enough to have faith in it's ability.
When my BK9 gets here tomorrow, and I get a chance to try it out..my opinion/choice may very well change.



also, just cuz he said AK/Yukon dont mean ''snow/cold'' it just means a certain geographic location. That area does have a summer season too


I do agree with you that people should test things for themselves and THEN make choices...not just read stuff or watch web videos. Thats why I said BK2, because I have used one...I could have said BK9 or 7 or 3 or machax, but Ive never used one so I personally cant vouch for or hypothetically choose one of them.
 
I only own one Becker and it's a BK2 and from the limited time i have owned it and used it i think i would rely on this knife and only this knife. I'd stake my life on it.
 
You gotta go into this with an open mind. And, you gotta know that Becker knives are so good, that you simply can't stop at one. When is the last time you ate just one chip ? Yeah, it's like that. But the plus side is, yeah they ARE that good.

I say the BK2 should be the first. It is just SO awesome, that it will make you want to see, what could possibly be better than this. Then comes #2 & you are amazed that you are equally impressed, yet differently so.
 
thrillbilly said:
I would trust my Beast2 to get me to civilization or to survive until rescued, no doubt in my mind about it. Heck, I wouldn't feel too bad about having ''just'' my 14 either, tuff lil SOB!
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did someone say beastk2?

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Out of the Becker line up I beleive that the BK-5 would be a good choice seeing as it has enough length to do chopping and maybe some light battoning but it has a very thin and kinda pointy profile which could in a pinch do lighter task like wood working, field dressing, and skinning. While this isn't the perfect knife by any means IMO it makes a decent " jack of all trades knife ".
 
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