If i am gonna drop $200...

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I'm dying for the Spyderco Yojimbo 2 in S90V, now if I am in fact going to drop $200 on my next blade here, are there any others that I should check out at no more than $200? Or is the Yojimbo 2 gonna be my best bang for my b buck at $200 for S90V?

Other question. ..is the difference in S30V and S90V significant? Like $100 dollars worth the difference because I can get the Yojimbo 2 in S30V for $100...HELP Y'ALL! !!
 
Spyderco Tuff comes with a super big chunk of CPM 3V and can be found at or under $200. Found mine for $180 from an authorized dealer a while back.

Steel wise, that's going to probably be your best bang for your buck under $200.
 
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Good luck.
 
The difference in steel alone may not be worth the $100.00 difference, but consider the s90v version also has carbon fiber scales, and is a dealer exclusive/limited edition, and to some that may make it worth it.

You have to decide by weighing those factors if it is worth it to you.
 
The difference in steel alone may not be worth the $100.00 difference, but consider the s90v version also has carbon fiber scales, and is a dealer exclusive/limited edition, and to some that may make it worth it.

You have to decide by weighing those factors if it is worth it to you.

This^ The price increase covers more than just the steel. So if all you want is a higher end steel then I'd look else wear. Personally I'd go for a Gayle Bradley in M4
 
Thanks y'all, something about the blade shape just truly does it for me with the Yojimbo over the other suggestions, and I would really love a limited run blade as it would be my 1st.

Can anyone explain what S90V steel is exactly? Would it be an increase on tip strength at all over S30v in the Yojimbo 2 in particular?

Thanks
 
Your best bet would be to look up an app called "knife steel compositions". That will tell you the exact differences between the two.

As to what to expect in hand, s90v will be harder to sharpen, bit should have longer edge holding capabilities, given cutting the same materials and same model knives, both being yojimbos.
if anything the s30v Might have a bit more toughness, thus having a stronger tip strength, but it should be such a miniscule amount that it isnt worth taking into account.

Info from said app is as follows.

S90V:
C:*2.30; W:*0.40; V:*8.75-9.00;*
Cr:*14.00; Mo:*1.00; Mn:*0.50;*
P:*0.03; S:*0.03; Si:*0.50;*

Maker: Crucible - United States (US)
Technology: CPM

Notes:
First introduced in 1999. Very good, highly stain and wear resistant CPM steel from Crucible. Base for this alloy was AISI 420 steel wit added Vanadium, really large amount though. Latrobe makes very similar DuraTech 420PM steel.

S30V:
C:*1.45-1.46; W:*0.10-0.40; V:*4.00;*
Cr:*14.00; Mo:*2.00; Mn:*0.50;*
N:*0.10; P:*0.03; S:*0.03;*
Si:*0.50;*
Maker: Crucible - United States (US)
Technology: CPM

Notes:
Developed in 2001, by Crucible. Rare case of a steel designed as a cutlery steel. Several well known knife makers participated in the development/research including: Phil Wilson, Sal Glesser, Ernest Emerson, Tony Marfione, William Harsey Jr., Tom Mayo, Jerry Hossom, and Paul Bos, Chris Reeve. The result is a very good steel, although heat treating it properly was a problem initially. It isn't A2 class toughness as Knife Steel FAQ states, but still, quite tough and wear resistant for the stainless steel. Considered as one of the premium mainstream cutlery steels.*
 
Can you afford the CF version? If you can, I say go for it.

If not, rest assured you won't be under-knifed with the standard S30V Yojimbo. I've only had mine for a few days but I'm really enjoying it. Gets sharp as hell and the steel is plenty tough for EDC work. Plus, I've always been a big fan of G10.
 
I wouldnt turn down s90v but im not going to pay 100 bucks extra for it. Even with a cf scale. For me s90v may have better edge retention but i also value ease of sharpening over retention any day. So that may mean different things to you. As to whether there are other knives that would be worth looking at for the price. Is this just about the steel or does the knife design play a role in you wanting it?
 
S90v is a bit harder to resharpen, but I don't feel it's significantly harder to maintain a sharp edge, it's only more work if you want to re-profile the edge or need to bring back a very dull or damaged edge. I also wouldn't turn down a knife with S30v steel at half the price, S90v isn't twice as good as S30v. These days if you are going to spend more than $150 on a folder, it should have premium edge holding steel. There are too many great production knives available with higher end blade steels (S90v, S110v, 20cp, 204p, M390, etc.) that hold their edge significantly better than S30v, S35vn, VG10, N690, 3v, CTS-XHP etc. etc. A knife is used for cutting after all, and most people are not experiencing chipping/breaking with any of these steels in general folding knife use.

It's well worth your time to research and learn about the properties of various steels for your intended use. For example I see no point in buying a folding knife in 3V or CTS-XHP because they give up edge holding for toughness and I'm not seeing damage to my knives in steels that hold an edge much longer. If I was then of course I'd lean to folding knives with tougher blade steels (or change my edge profile).

Worth is a very personal decision, you'll see production and custom knives that cost $500+ that use relatively boring poor edge holding steels. For some people that are into the design, the maker, love sharpening all the time, etc. cutting performance is not at the top of their list, but for me I'm very much a function over form person. So if someone wants to sell me a $500 folding knife, it better blade steel with a focus on edge retention. It's no different than a $10K Rolex not being able to keep time as well as a $50 Casio, people don't buy Rolex watches because they keep the most accurate time.
 
A few thoughts.

1. There is no way S90V is worth $100 more than S30V, in my humble opinion. Ditto what the other poster said about easy of sharpening.

2. In the $200 range, I would definitely encourage you to look into ZT. While I own more Spyderco's than anything else probably, I find the build quality, fit and finish, durability, and looks (which is a personal taste) superior with ZTs than Spyderco. As far as which ZT, 0566 is a great one, as is the 0770CF (which is a sheepsfoot blade, similar to the wharclyffe on the Yojimbo).
 
A few thoughts.

1. There is no way S90V is worth $100 more than S30V, in my humble opinion. Ditto what the other poster said about easy of sharpening.

2. In the $200 range, I would definitely encourage you to look into ZT. While I own more Spyderco's than anything else probably, I find the build quality, fit and finish, durability, and looks (which is a personal taste) superior with ZTs than Spyderco. As far as which ZT, 0566 is a great one, as is the 0770CF (which is a sheepsfoot blade, similar to the wharclyffe on the Yojimbo).

Personally I would not spend that much extra for S90V. I once spent extra for laminated ZDP-189 (but that was 65 HC, so very different league). The point is I am not going to spend extra on a super fancy steel again. S30V and VG10 is were its at, IMO.

For $200 you can afford allot of good knives. My suggestions would be (and I can answer questions regarding all of them).

Spyderco Military
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Just gonna throw this out there...
Look at the KnifeWorks exclusive Benchmade Contego 810 in M390. It's a really nice knife. Also, lotta good ZTs at that price point.

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Yes! Thank you so much guys, Rasco, todd, and purp you all told me what I needed to hear...if S30V is in fact a quality steel?? Then for $119 im scooping one up now, I prefer the look of G 10 better than the carbon fiber. I'll reserve my spending of 200 and up for actual custom made blades and fixed blades..
 
Thanks Rasco, that BM does in fact look sick as hell, but for some reason I just cannot shake the absolute desire for a Yojimbo 2, no other knife has taken my eye like it has at the moment! especially for 120 bucks for the S30V version, it's right there in what I like to spend each paycheck!
 
What are the real differences in qualities between these 2 steels, does S90V hold an edge alot longer than S30V? I'm getting my next paycheck this coming Thursday and I was all set to just order the Yojimbo 2 carbon fiber S90V especially since every place has been our of the Yojimbo 2 S30V one, but now it's back in for $104 Vs. $199 So I'm really trying to get alot of feedback from everyone here in this thread so I can make my final educated decision between the 2, now trust I'm always happy saving 100 bucks but if that means I'm getting a very inferior steel or knife in general I will gladly drop the Xtra 100!

What y'alls thoughts
 
I have had both steels, and the S90V @ 60 holds it's edge 2-3 times longer than S30V @ 60. At deer camp a couple years back, my Spyderco Southfork in S90V skinned and partially butchered 4 large whitetails without any noticeable loss in sharpness.
 
What are the real differences in qualities between these 2 steels, does S90V hold an edge alot longer than S30V? I'm getting my next paycheck this coming Thursday and I was all set to just order the Yojimbo 2 carbon fiber S90V especially since every place has been our of the Yojimbo 2 S30V one, but now it's back in for $104 Vs. $199 So I'm really trying to get alot of feedback from everyone here in this thread so I can make my final educated decision between the 2, now trust I'm always happy saving 100 bucks but if that means I'm getting a very inferior steel or knife in general I will gladly drop the Xtra 100!

What y'alls thoughts


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Duh :D
 
Might as well drop the Xtra hundred, I just don't think I could be satisfied or happy with a Yojimbo 30V, knowing what could have been..
 
One thing to keep in mind about the cost difference is that it isn't just the cost of the steel that raises the price...it's also the increased production costs (more belts, increased wear on equipment/tools, more labor hours, etc)
 
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