If India gets Nuked

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...perhaps the factory should stay where it is in Nepal. I wonder if the prevailing winds would hurt Nepal with radiation in event of a war between Pakistan and India. I imagine it depends upon the scale of attack.

Better the demon you know than the one you don't.

munk
 
Scary to think that a country whose religious beliefs include reincarnation is in possession of Nukes. And they've been building up their karma for millenia! heehe!

Keith, trying to make light of the darkest of situations since 1969.
 
Originally posted by HJK
They're not that crazy over there. Are they?
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Having lived in India for close to 15 years there is always a lot more talk than action between India and Pakistan, always has been.
Imagine two four-year olds fighting.
True both countries have nuclear capability bit doubtful they will resort to them in a squabble that started more than 50 years ago.
Like children they are vying for global attention and getting it.
The politicians will benefit from the new found attention and things will settle down, again, like it has every other time for the past 50 years.
 
They have fought a few wars over there, but i wouldn't expect them yo let matters go nuclear. But they're making all the wrong moves and sending some pretty scary signals. I hope you're right.
 
Originally posted by HJK
I hope you're right.
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me too HJK, me too.
Friends who still live over there don't seem as excited about the current events as the international news media but then they believe in reincarnation too.
 
If anybody nukes anybody anywhere it is going to spell bad news for everybody everywhere. All it takes is one crazy with the bomb, delivery system, and enough horsepower to get the job done -- and that is scary.
 
The nuclear technology that India, pakistan, and the grab bag of others have is, to my knowledge, not nearly as modern as the nuclear arsenal we have. The a-bomb has a lot of stigma surrounding it and it is a truley awesome weapon. It brought the strong nation of Japan to its knees. That was then..

We didn't use the bomb in Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Grenada, or the Gulf not just because of the stimga surrounding it.. but because we've got a grab bag of other bombs.. and some of them are worse than nukes. You can level a city or scorch the country side or even send 'em back to the stone age with one nuke or 1000 other bombs.

I don't think we've seen the last of the nuclear bomb.. but I feel that its days a the trump card are (hopefully) coming to an end.

A side note.. I've always found it interesting that the two nukes we dropped on japan were the only ones we had! President Truman must have had quite the poker face to pull that bluff off.
 
There was a Professor from Texas on Fox news, he and other experts are worried because Pakistan does not have the conventional capability as India and has said it will use nukes to defend herself.

Conventional arms are terrible, but the stigma of nukes was real during Vietnam and other wars and was why we did not open the box.

munk
 
The same bastards who brought you september 11 should most likely soon have their hands on pakistan's nuclear arsenal, if they don't already.

First muslim nation gets nukes, and look what happens...

-Dave
 
Originally posted by Vicks
The nuclear technology that India, pakistan, and the grab bag of others have is, to my knowledge, not nearly as modern as the nuclear arsenal we have. The a-bomb has a lot of stigma surrounding it and it is a truley awesome weapon. It brought the strong nation of Japan to its knees. That was then..
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I completely agree with your overall message except for one detail. Japan was no longer a powerful nation when the atomic bombs fell, they were militarily bankrupt and their civilian populace was on the brink of starvation.

The bombs had to be dropped because a small but influential cadre of highly ranked Japanese military officers were unwilling to accept an unconditional surrender and demonstrate that their exalted emperor was a mere human.

Had Truman decided to do otherwise, countless American lives would have been sacrificed to bring them to their senses and the civilian death toll in Japan would have been far worse than it was.
 
To my knowledge, Pakistan actually faked their nuclear tests after India's (real) tests in order to 'maintain the balance of power'. At least that seems to be the belief of some in the know.
 
How, precisely, does one "fake" a thermonuclear explosion? Plant a few million pounds of high explosive and plutonium in the ground precisely where the missile is supposed to strike? And do so for each test? That couldn't be hidden from satellites. How many Freemasons or OFO's does it take to arrange that?
 
Originally posted by HJK
How, precisely, does one "fake" a thermonuclear explosion? Plant a few million pounds of high explosive and plutonium in the ground precisely where the missile is supposed to strike? And do so for each test? How many Freemasons or OFO's does it take to arrange that?
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I don't know the details, but what I heard is that the 'force' of the explosion didn't match that of a thermonuclear explosion. But this could be spurious information.
 
beoram,
Sorry. You posted while I edited to add that such a masssive undertaking couldn't be hidden from satellites.
I find it difficult to believe that the Pakistanis couldn't develop nuclear weapons if they wanted to. They seem to be highly intelligent and educated and technically capable, and getting raw materials isn't impossible for a nation committed to do so. I think we have to assume they have the bomb. assuming otherwise is too dangerous, I think.
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The tests in question were underground- the evidence for them was based upon seismic readings, if I'm not mistaken. Spy satellites would be of little relevance here. All you need to do is generate a powerful explosion deep underground with a seismic signature as close as possible to a nuclear event. I'm not saying Pakistan doesn't have real nukes, but faking a test should be possible.

Patrick
 
I think it wishful thinking to believe Pakistan does not have nuclear capability. A hell of a fake if they'd really pulled it off, though.


munk
 
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