If India gets Nuked

Raven,
I understand that. But to simulate a nuclear explosion, even a relatively small one, you would have to transport enormous quamtities of explosives to the site and bury them, among other things. This could be detected by satellite. I suppose it is not impossible to disguise some of this as earth-moving etc, but the USA has tremendous experience in underground testing and in monitoring such tests by satellite and they would be hard to fool. I have also heard that nuclear explosions have a distinguishable seismic signature, which makes sense, but I'm no expert, that's for sure. Anyway, it would be great to see some primary sources on all this. Anyone have a link to one of the Intelligence Community's sites? CIA, NSA? Or the granddaddy of them all, Disney? :)
 
Sorry for the double post, but here are three links of interest.
The first one deals with the tests specifically. You'll need Acrobat to read it. The second and third links show that, at least with declassified technology, it is very hard to differentiate between a very low yield nuclear explosion and an equivalent chemical one.http://www.nautilus.org/library/security/papers/Li_Zhimin-EnISODARCO.PDF

http://www.geo.arizona.edu/researchers/tinker/research/Nuclear/npe/
http://www.geo.arizona.edu/researchers/tinker/research/Nuclear/npe/ht.html
 
So far so good. Talked with Pala last night and he along with many other old Indian Army vets are keeping a watchful and worried eye on things down south.
 
Raghorn,

I definitely agree with you on that one. I heard that they were teaching women and children to fight with sticks against American invaders. They lost the war a long time before they surrendered.
 
Sorry, foxjaw, but I think the answer is "No".

I doubt that the military leadership of Pakistan wants a war. However, it looks like the Islamic militants in that country (plus their al-Qaeda allies), do. I believe that the jihadis will continue to provoke India until India retaliates with force. The militant elements could use the resulting confusion to oust Musharraf.

Pakistan really scares me. By all accounts, their intelligence services have many al-Qaeda sympathizers in the ranks. Plus, the head of the Pakistani nuclear program was a "guest" in Afghanistan prior to 9/11.

None of this spells anything good for the world. I only hope that our leaders have the strength to take the necessary action when the time comes.

S.
 
Please do not interchange the two terms.
"Thermonuclear" refers specifically to hydrogen (fusion) bombs, which can be much, much more powerful than "old-fashioned" A-bombs. None of the bombs tested in 1998 were thermonuclear and it's very unlikely that either country has thermonuclear weapons so far. (knock on wood and keep those fingers crossed)
Please do not scare me by casual incorrect use of the word "thermonuclear". It is a much more frightening prospect even than we are looking at now.
 
John,
You are 100% correct. Thermonuclear refers to fusion/"hydrogen" bombs; nuclear refers to fission/"atom" bombs. I knew that, of course. What I didn't know until I looked it up was that all the devices exploded were fission/atom devices. The first link I posted above claims as much. I had assumed that they went right to fusion bombs and that the yields were greater. Frankly, I'm surprised they did. Both countries are quite sophisticated technologically. I should have checked first. Mea culpa.
My mistake. Oops. Thanks for pointing it out. :)Let's hope they still with small warheads: or dismantle them altogether.
 
I think I saw something on CNN which said the US State Dept. was trying to evacuate Americans from both India and Pakistan. Not a very encouraging sign.
 
I hate to be a doomsayer but, fellas, it is just a matter of time before a nuke gets lit somewhere in the world. Murphy's law will prove itself once again along with statistics and probability theory.

There are too many nuclear weapons spread over too many countries. It is inevitable sooner or later. God help our children.

Semp --
 
I will help with the prayers. At the same time, let's hope that some of the meetings that seem to be getting started do a mountain of good.

Unfortunatly Semper Fi may be right. There are so many countries that have these weapons with some really insane leaders that the odds seem to be against the world going for very much longer without some nut popping the cap that starts it all.
Yes, let's hope the Lord helps the kids and grandkids. We may not be able to, but all we can do is the best we can:( :(
 
I think regardless of the prosperity and peace of the planet, should that day ever come, there will always be someone with nothing to lose who doesn't mind taking the rest of us down with him.

munk
 
Don't believe what you read.

If two men, both armed with knives, start fist fighting, and the smaller of the two starts getting beat, do you think he would whip out his 4" Benchmade, knowing his combatant has a Villager strapped to his belt?
 
My View,
They are going to fight!!Gone to far!! Some fighting has to occur, the Paki's are pushing too much & too hard!India will hit hard,Paki's will fight back,whine,say help!Negotiations will take place & a halt will occur!Do I think Nukes will occur! No!But if India let's loose 11,000 screaming Gurkas ???THESE PEOPLE "DO NOT " LIKE EACH OTHER, A "LARGE FIGHT "will occur!! Hope I'm wrong,"PRAY " that I am! Just my thoughts!!
jim
 
Fighting's been ongoing in the Kashmir region despite peace talks. It's like kids playing with matches in a fireworks factory. Our military is hard at work on an emergency action plan to get it's people out of eastern Afghanistan/western Pakistan if worse comes to worse. Both our government and the British government have directed their citizens to get the heck out of dodge (considering the number of Britons in India, that's a whole bunch of people).
Both sides say they don't want war, and in the same breath say they're ready for war and believe they can win. Even though Pakistan has long been our ally, India is not our enemy, so we're being careful not to take sides. Classic Mexican stand off.
I'm still excited about heading off to Afghanistan, we've still got a job to do, but this'll sure add to the pucker factor.
 
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