If you could have anything in a hydraulic press....

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deker

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...what would it be? I'm working with John Larson who makes the Iron Kiss Hammers on a hydraulic press design and we want to do a little market research. So, we've got some questions.


- What have you seen in other presses you like?
- What have you not seen that you'd like to?
- What features are important to you in a press?
- How much tonnage would you like?
- How tall/wide of a workpiece would you like to be able to work?
- What would a good price point be to make it worthwhile to buy rather than build?
- Anything else I missed? Give us suggestions!

I have confidence that John and I can come up with a good, useful, and safe design, and I have absolute faith in his ability to build a rock-solid machine. What we're interested in is what people think is most important in this admittedly expensive and important tool.

So, what do you guys think?

-d
 
I would love to make my press have a solenoid to make it repeat hits like a hydraulic breaker hammer. J.Caswell has it on his press and seems to like it IIRC.

and...

A cupholder!
 
#1 a foot pedal as an option, I have one and love it, however all of the currently made presses are arm action only.
At least 6" clearance with the dies in for the height and 10" for the width, I have *" right now and I would love that extra space.
I like mine at 30 tons, I think it would slow me down if I had to go with a 24 tonner, more is better, but 30 is a good number
I think the $3000-$4000 range would be good depending on options.
Dies that are secure, but easy to change, this is very important.
A wide selection of dies, I have made my own, but I would really rather have someone else do it. Examples ladder and raindrop in several sizes, several drawing dies and flat dies, and a cutoff that can take some abuse ie. h-13.
The ability to run on single phase 220 current, most of us are not lucky enough to have 3-phase in our shops.
more later,
Del
 
Sorry Decker, brain fart.....I talked with John about presses at the Blacksmith Days, but was thinking about his hammers when I posted
. My recommendations were a solenoid operated control valve, a foot switch, and a cycle timing circuit (to give the press automated multi-strokes for drawing out). 26 to 30 tons force. 8-10" ram stroke, 5-6" ram, 22 GPM.
With John's construction techniques, I know it would be beefy and die changes would be easy. Have John email me if he wishes.
Stacy
 
Seems like the foot control reigns supreme!
Die height similar to a power hammer so you don't have to adjust from one machine to the other.
Secure, yet easily replaceable die-to-die feature.
30 ton range.
220 single phase.
Long-term use WITH safety, in mind. Reinforced lines, large oil capacity for cool operation, etc.
Were do I send my deposit?
 
I forgot to mention that one thing we've already decided is that all hydraulics will be completely enclosed. The thought of lasers of flaming hydraulic oil scare the crap out of me :)

-d
 
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