if you don`t mind mr glesser

One has to imagine his view is favorable considering the Bi-fold is coming out soon. The bi-fold isn't exactly the traditional ao knife but I see springs. ;)
 
IMHO, if there were ever a case where catering to a "fad" does not make good sense in the long term, it's the area of AO knives. On the one hand there is the fact that eventually, the lightbulb will go off for even the most dimwitted lawmakers and they will see AOs as a "loophole" in the current anti-auto laws which "needs" to be closed. Read: presents a golden opportunity to appear "tough on crime" - regardless of the reality that such laws don't accomplish jack-squat. My greatest fear is that ALL one-hand opening knives will be tarred with the same brush and included in that legislation.

On the other hand, there is the obvious question of why complicate and opening system that provides maximum reliability with excellent ease and speed by adding tiny bits and pieces which "might" increase opening speed marginally, but will inevitably will reduce long-term reliability to a much greater extent.
 
i love assisted openers . its ok for you americans , you can have switchblades. i live in australia , i can`t have a switchblade , but i have 4 assisted openers. i would like a spyderco assisted opener . hate on assisted openers if you want , but i love them .
no offense intended , you have some good points . :)
 
SIRGALANT said:
Zenheritc i haven`t looked at the bifold , sounds interesting though.
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do a search on the spyderco.com website...well maybe even here. Pics and what not have been shown...still not out yet though. Also, it is hard to judge how useful it will be be the gadget factor is high...and I have faith it will have utility.
 
SirGalant, United States Federal law proscribes the importation or interstate transportation of switchblade knives and many, many local and state jurisdictions have outlawed them. I would, by no means, say that "its ok for you americans, you can have switchblades." Some Americasn, police officers and active duty military may legally purchase them across state lines and ship them back to the factory for service when needed, but just about nobody else can. The one exception of which I am aware is California which allows the private ownership and carrying of switchblades with blades of 2" or less. But, then again, you must keep them within the state.
 
GarySoneji said:
I read that only 32 states outlawed switch blades.
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You have to be careful there. I had a automatic knife manufacturer tell me that automatics are legal in Maryland. Maybe so if you can carry one so that is not concealed in any way - but, Maryland law specifically classifys "switcblades" as deadly weapons, under the prohibited weapons section of the "Concealed Weapons Law" It also prohibits their sale, barter, or display.

Don't think I will be carrying or selling automatics in Maryland - Law appears to be pretty specific.
 
There is no such thing as a "loop-hole." That is prohibitionist talk. The law is the law, and if some politico wishes to shackel on some more laws, we should move to prevent it. Assisted openers (AO) don't qualify as autos. Period. Let's keep it that way.

Personally, I am not fond of them. Like autos, though.
 
Orthogonal1, I think that we are already seeing the closing of that "loophole" with several jurisdictions beginning to interpret the laws to include AO knives as switchblades. There was the case of a BFC member who had his Ken Onion Kershaw whatever seized at the Arch in St. Louis because it was illegal at the other end, in Illinois, as a switchblade. Or something like that. And, IIRC, the police in NYC were going around to all of the knife stores in the city seizing AO knives on that basis.
 
FullerH said:
And, IIRC, the police in NYC were going around to all of the knife stores in the city seizing AO knives on that basis.
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Oh boy, I bet the people in New York can breathe easier now that all of those dangerous AO knives have been taken off of the streets. Everybody knows that switchblades and AO knives are way more dangerous than other ones (or broken bottles, or bricks, or baseball bats....):jerkit:
 
theoldawg said:
You have to be careful there. I had a automatic knife manufacturer tell me that automatics are legal in Maryland. Maybe so if you can carry one so that is not concealed in any way - but, Maryland law specifically classifys "switcblades" as deadly weapons, under the prohibited weapons section of the "Concealed Weapons Law" It also prohibits their sale, barter, or display.

Don't think I will be carrying or selling automatics in Maryland - Law appears to be pretty specific.
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Nothing is legal in Maryland. You shouldn't even be writing about knives from there. I'm pretty sure just thinking about something sharp is enough to get you locked up in the People's Republic of Maryland. I used to work in Kensington MD and I hated it. You can't even buy beer in a regular store there. Baltimore's okay, though.
 
theoldawg said:
You have to be careful there.
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I read it in an article in the Wall Street Journal. The one that upset a few people and was posted in the general discussion forum (later moved to the political forum.) I was wondering what states don't outlaw them.
 
moonwilson said:
Nothing is legal in Maryland. You shouldn't even be writing about knives from there. I'm pretty sure just thinking about something sharp is enough to get you locked up in the People's Republic of Maryland. I used to work in Kensington MD and I hated it. You can't even buy beer in a regular store there. Baltimore's okay, though.
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You're mistaken.

Concealed carry of folding knives are perfectly legal, in any shape, size, or fashion, provided they are not autos. The state statute allows knives as long they are considered "pen knives without switchblade" which case law has shown to be pretty much everything.

Autos and fixed blades are illegal to carry concealed. Folders are fine.

For open carry, the laws don't ever state anything, but it is generally assumed that open carry is perfectly legal.

The biggest issue in MD law is whether the knife is intended for use as a weapon, which immediately makes it illegal, regardless.

I've carried folders of various sizes, with holes, thumb studs, waves, and assisted opener. I've even carried Balis on belt sheaths, and I've never been questioned about them.

Then again, I don't exactly wave them around screaming "hey look I'm using a knife." I'm discrete about it.

Maryland does suck for knife carry, but not as bad as you think. Handguns on the other hand...:mad:
 
theoldawg said:
Maryland law specifically classifys "switcblades" as deadly weapons, under the prohibited weapons section of the "Concealed Weapons Law" It also prohibits their sale, barter, or display.
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You sure about that last part? I was under the impression you could own them, but not carry them.

Could be mistaken though.
 
Hi Sirgalant,

We've thought about it. Eric has a few designed that are pretty nice.

Kershaw has agreed to license us if we go in that direction.

We've got quite a few designs in the works right now and we're trying to be careful not to overload.


sal
 
SIRGALANT said:
i love assisted openers . its ok for you americans , you can have switchblades. i live in australia , i can`t have a switchblade , but i have 4 assisted openers. i would like a spyderco assisted opener . hate on assisted openers if you want , but i love them .
no offense intended , you have some good points . :)
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Switchblades? Huh? Dude, I'm a police officer, allowed to carry firearms concealed, however, the one thing I'm NOT allowed to carry is a switchblade. The laws are fairly universal in the "states". Even us cops aint allowed to carry those things. :cool:

I agree with the Deacon. Regards.
 
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