Illinois weapons charges? Ridiculous situation

Having a 4" knife in itself is not a problem, unless you know full well of the 3" legal limit yet decided to break it anyway in a regular basis. But when you add a throwing knife (illegal) and a bowie, it goes into cuckoo territory. I intensely dislike these kind of people because I get lumped together with them.

Here I am carefully selecting my EDC for minimum scare factor and be a good "ambassador" of knife users, then this wacko comes brandishing his stupid Bowie and throwing knives nonchalantly. If he's carrying a knife just to guard against an umpire, he ought to talk to a shrink, seriously.
 
Wow, just wow. Throwing knives, bowie knives, and a four inch folder, as an EDC? He might not really be as screwed up as you think though, probably just wants the attention. He's like those kids who cut themselves and run and brag about it. Or, maybe he really is that screwed up. in either case, keep your distance, because if he is as messed up as you think, you don't want to be anywhere near him when he pops.

That was exactly the sentiment I was trying to counter with my earlier comments. Be nice now, it's more complex than that, and I think he'll get over it with time. I'll bet if somebody just told him it's illegal, he'd stop doing it.
 
That was exactly the sentiment I was trying to counter with my earlier comments. Be nice now, it's more complex than that, and I think he'll get over it with time. I'll bet if somebody just told him it's illegal, he'd stop doing it.


From what I've read, he has been repeatedly told about the laws. I'll agree with you that it very well may be more complex than him just wanting attention or him being completely off his rocker. But then it might not be, why take the risk?
 
The showing off part is stupid. IMO that behavior is most often for attention rather than intimindation.

Some folks may be intimidated and choose to leave him alone. Other folks might feel reasonably threatened and pay him the sort of attention he really doesn't want, or ask the police to do so for them. Sooner or later it seems destined to occur with the wrong audience. His showing off as has been described isn't just stupid but moving well into the realm of reckless & dangerous, IMO.
 
I'm sorry, but that kid needs a phycologist, he is 17, in one year he can buy rifles, then what? It's not far fetched for him to buy a shotgun, saw it off, pistol grip it, and carry it.

The kids needs his room stripped of all weapons, including on his person, and then needs treatment. I don't want to sound paranoid, but him flaunting his weapons means that he needs to mature before he can own any weapons.

Hypothetically, say tomorrow he goes to 7-11. A cop is also in there, the cop bumps him walking out of the store, he gets paranoid, pulls a knife on the cop, and has just landed himself attempted murder and many other charges. It's not just an unrealistic story, stuff like this happens.

The kid needs help. The relative needs outside help for this problem, it sounds like they can't change his habits so they need a phycologist or somebody with experience to make him change his ways.

I'm not being paranoid, I'm very concerned. This isn't a laughing matter because his attitude toward weapons can cause harm to others.
 
Sticking with the blade laws, I did spent a meal discussing the kid's habits with his relative. She was somewhat familiar with the issues at hand, she herself carries a keychain tool and she does like playing with some of my EDCs for the novelty of it. She assumed the Bowie simply had to be illegal, but was unaware of the classification of the double edged throwers. I didn't bother with the 4' folder, I understand that's the one he actually uses for cutting tasks. She said she'll pass it on to the family the next time she heads out there, but it looks like this may be a dead end. She never mentioned it until I opened it up, but obviously some conflicts of opinions on the boy have led to family tensions. Two smiling, clueless, notably naive parents. If they don't listen, get some one he'd take seriously to mention it to him, it's up to the rest of the family.

As he kept remind us himself, the kid actually is a bit of a star academically and has some major scholarships. His parents, meanwhile, are extremely limited intellectually, as in they have the intellect to pay the rent but not much else. Yet, follow an oddly hands-off, yet eerily encouraging attitude. My relative assures me, "They'd be glad he has those things, they think he's superhuman." On one hand, his personality is extremely abrasive if not predatory...but the kid has nearly a full ride scholarship at a private upstate academy. Friends, emotional stability, and compassion for others...Not present. My friend filled me in on a couple incidents, thankfully excluding knives, that illustrated that this kid's temper has indeed resulted in violence. Nothing on the street or in the police blotters, but normal teenage situations which resulted in sudden, unwarranted rage. I won't disclose anything, this forum doesn't need more stress with these customs issues, but I'll say this much: It's not just knives. It's his car, his relationships, his academics, and his self esteem. These stories honestly scared me a bit, especially a twist at the end about his career goals. ROTC scholarship, full ride, will serve as an officer. In the other window, I'm looking up military psych tests.

In closing, my friend will pass on details of the law to the family if she sees them. The plan is when they mention him, suddenly get a lightbulb idea about something she heard the other day that reminded her of the son. How far will it get? Doubtful, but she will pass this on to some family elders who may get a role model to intervene. I'm just a friend from work she brought out to stay sane at a family event, whom happens to appreciate lawfully used tools. The rest of this...I appreciate banter, this is one of the most intelligent and well-rounded sites I've been on, but you gentlemen really don't want to know the extent of these problems. I'm seeing why my friend didn't want to talk about it, a lot of people let this happen over a long period of time.
 
I'm sorry, but that kid needs a phycologist, he is 17, in one year he can buy rifles, then what? It's not far fetched for him to buy a shotgun, saw it off, pistol grip it, and carry it.

The kids needs his room stripped of all weapons, including on his person, and then needs treatment. I don't want to sound paranoid, but him flaunting his weapons means that he needs to mature before he can own any weapons.

Hypothetically, say tomorrow he goes to 7-11. A cop is also in there, the cop bumps him walking out of the store, he gets paranoid, pulls a knife on the cop, and has just landed himself attempted murder and many other charges. It's not just an unrealistic story, stuff like this happens.

The kid needs help. The relative needs outside help for this problem, it sounds like they can't change his habits so they need a phycologist or somebody with experience to make him change his ways.

I'm not being paranoid, I'm very concerned. This isn't a laughing matter because his attitude toward weapons can cause harm to others.
Don't give him any ideas about sawing off a scattergun. It is a 10-year, $250,000 federal felony and he will be crucified by BATFE and assistant U.S. Attorney prosecutors if caught in possession of one. As I stated earlier, if this kid is a minor, where are his parents and where is the family intervention? Maybe his parents are completely clueless about their son's activities. Agreed, this kid should not be in possession of any weapons, not even so much as a SAK, until his issues are resolved.
 
I have to comment on this. I am thirteen, and everyday I edc either my bm grip, or my spyderco para millitary. I also carry a fenix eo1, my iphone, my lighter, and lastly my sheeple knife, a case medium stockman. I carry all of this, yet I am responsible with it. I think this kid is a mall ninja at its finest. I agree with telling his parents of his violations, but his parents might not give a $hit about him.
 
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