I'm guessing this'd be a scam...

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Sorry if this is inappropriate for this forum, but I'd heard about a couple of guys getting burned by scams like this, so I thought I'd throw a heads-up to everyone. Please feel free to pull a Moverator, if this needs to be somewhere else.

Today, I received an email from one Daniel Kuncoro, the contents of which read as follows:

Dear,

Can i to buy Damascus knives and hunting knives at your shop, with my credit card?
I'm from Singapore.
I need that knives for my collection.
I'm waiting your respond.

Thank you.


Now, while I like to think that I'm a personable fellow, I hardly think that I'm loose enough to be addressed simply as "Dear," by just everyone!! I'm no two-bit whore! I'm a FOUR-BIT whore!! :D :p Anyway, this struck me as bogus for a number of reasons:

1) I don't have a shop, per se. For those of you who've been out to my (hopelessly out-of-date) website, you've probably noticed, I don't even HAVE anything on my "For Sale" page.
2) The guy's in Singapore, and there seems to be a real rash of scams of this type orignating in that area, just now. Bet that's pissing off a whole lot of legimate Singapore knifeknuts!
3) This was a Yahoo email account.
4) The whole thing struck me as either an auto-gen'd message, or a cut-n-paste mass mailing.

So, I'm letting it die in my inbox, a slow, withering death. I'm afraid to respond, for fear of encouraging more like this. If you really ARE interested, Daniel, and you're not a scammer, please feel free to register a free logon here, and either post a message, or reference a thread or something verifiable. I won't take a credit card from Singapore (heck, I can't take credit cards from across the street, yet!), but I'm sure we can work something out for a money order or something.

Otherwise, HEADS!!!!!!

:rolleyes:
 
I have had a lot of similar inquires in the last 6 months from people wanting to use credit cards. When I tell them that I don't take credit cards and require a deposit with a money order and payment in full before shipping I don't hear from them again. Gib
 
here's what he sent me and I got one all most to the the letter
by another e-mail addy he found of mine
he's going by arty and arthy he has given me 5 card numbers now
that won't match the billing addresses they are stolen card numbers
I have called the card bank holders for these ones.
these are some e-mail he sent to me
*********
Dear There,

I'm your new customer from Indonesia and i would like to
purchased your product. Please give me all of information about your products that
availabe at this time and ready to ship to my country . About
the payment method i'm ready to pay with my credit card and
i'll give after you agree with this term. For the shipping
method i prefered using FedEx International Priority or DHL .Looking forward to hearing good news from you. Thanks

Regards,
Ardy Wijaya

***
dear Sir/Madam ,

Would you mind give me your available knife list and ready to ship at this time ?
I'm knife collector from Singapore ready to make purchase .

reply me soon

thanks

regards ,

ardhy wijaya

(the addy he is using he says is)

Billing also shipping address: (not so)
Masjid Kuncen 13
Yogyakarta
DIY
Indonesia 55253



********
if one card don't work he has more...
 
He ain't interested. These guys make me sick. I'm tempted to set up a website just to draw these guys in and then mail them a vial of powdered sugar with a bio-hazard symbol on the side or an especially viscous piece of roadkill or something.
 
On another note, I got an order from a guy in Sweden about a year ago. The guy wanted to pay by bank note which I allowed. Payment arrived and cashed, shipped the knife and after awhile the guy emails saying it was never received so I start the USPS/insurance process. Four months go by never hearing from the customer again, and USPS insurance finally paid. Then I send another knife which in a couple weeks comes back with a bunch of language which I nor the postmaster could decipher written all over the package...still have not heard from the customer.:confused:
 
SPryor Knives,
Next time, post an image of the strange language over
at the Euro-forum. I'm sure it could be translated.
heck even I could do that!
Scandinavian customers (like me) get alot of hassle with
our customs offices, and sometimes they just change the rules
to their liking, causing customers to sit and wait endlessly
without ever knowing what's going on...
Even if it's a boyscout knife... :o

Oh well, nothing to add to the card-scam deal.
Luckily there are more untalented scam artists out there then there are talented.

Gugsi
 
I recieved the exat same email today myself...I am going to guess this is a scam:mad:
Won't even waste my time answering it..
Bruce
 
Bruce get a card number from him as many as you can and report them
the ones I reported the customers didn't know their cards were being used. the bank will put a hold on them. mite save a poor sole some grief.:( I got 5 out of him:D
 
This is definately a scam read this link :-

http://www.time.com/time/globalbusiness/article/0,9171,1101020923-351237,00.html

Lucky for you, you did not fall to your greed to make a quick sale and fall for the scam. I guess thats why we who live in this part of the world find it so hard to buy things from the States. I would say that if the buyer is unknown even to bladeforums then he/she is a fraud. If you understand the economic situation in Ind and Malaysia then you will know that out of the population only 1% can afford the prices after conversion to the greenback. And out of that 1% only less than 0.1% are interested in knives to go throught the hassle of importing knives through the internet. If the guy is interested, he would be member of this forum or at least knifeforums, two of the most active forums on knives. Makes it very hard for us legit knifenuts to get knives. :mad:
 
Guys I really will ship you the magic beens..... As soon as the damascus knives arrive :)
 
It is a scam. They will refuse to pay with a credit card through PayPal, they want to deal directly with you. They order a knife, usually an expensive one, and then give you a stolen number. You run the number and get an authorization, then you ship the knife. Then the card is discovered stolen and you don't get the cash.

OR

They give you a valid card number and then after you ship, they call the credit card company and cancel the payment by saying they did not get the knife as agreed.

There is also another scam out there where they will ask for a "Sample" for them to evaluate with the promise of buying hundreds if they meet the expected quality.

Watch your back on ALL international orders.
 
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