IMO Crap Sheath

I only have one Randall so far it has no mark on the sheath what so ever.
But it wouldn't matter if it did I like my knives to be used and look it.
I don't think most especially non knife people would even notice that. But in the end its your knife and if you'd be happier with a pristine sheath you may have to spend the money for shipping and trade yours to them for another one
Or have a custom one made is another option, thats what I do with a lot of my knives.
 
icraker said:
This is a premium knife that I waited 5 years for. In my opinion their quality control should probably look for things like this and say "Hey, this doesn't seem to meet our standards. Let's take a couple of days and make another one for this guy that doesn't look so bad." They didn't do that. They thought this was OK and moved to the next order figuring if I'm not happy then I can just pay to get another one.

That is the quality we are getting now.
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True: This misaligned guard is what they felt was Ok to ship out at the price they charge: I fixed it in my own way at my own expense (grinding it down a round-squarish hole-less shape), but be warned Randalls are roughly made indeed these days (particularly the blade finish)... Although still with beautifully thin edges, even if the points are so blunt and crude they could safely be used for sheathless knife fighting training...:

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The sheath issue of the OP would be completely unacceptable on the front of the sheath, I personally find it borderline on the back... I know that this sheath is huge, and so the mark to me looks just huge as well... Being on the back I would accept it, but it does illustrate what they feel can get away with on a very expensive knife: Almost no other knives in that price range would have such things...

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Personally i use the hell out of my knives, i don't care about little marks and the like, my concern with any knife is how it handles the task, and my Randall have always done what i expect them too, i must admit i am a little harder on my Busse knives but they can handle the abuse. But for cleaning fish and critters Randalls are awesome.
 
icraker said:
This is a premium knife that I waited 5 years for. In my opinion their quality control should probably look for things like this and say "Hey, this doesn't seem to meet our standards. Let's take a couple of days and make another one for this guy that doesn't look so bad." They didn't do that. They thought this was OK and moved to the next order figuring if I'm not happy then I can just pay to get another one.

That is the quality we are getting now.
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Icraker hit the nail on the head.....this is the quality of Sullivan's Sheaths.....IMO.
 
Ronnie, we've been through this before. Maurice Johnson is dead. Johnny Johnson is dead. Sullivan's Holster Shop is currently the only authorized maker of leather sheaths for Randall Made Knives, and has been since 1991. You can order a knife without a sheath (-$35) and source one made to your specifications elsewhere. So, enough.
 
RMK will never care about customer feedback, dull blades, scuffed leather, and enourmous choils until their years long wait list disappears and customers stop calling. It use to bother me a lot too, I wanted a "custom" fitted randall knife as well, but the shop just can't get interested in extra work.

Isn't that how most businesses would do it?

As a side note they are still awesome in their own right. One of the last handmade in America, "anythings". Still going strong, and you even get a lot of options to boot. That is tons of service these days, from any manufacturer.
 
This is an interesting thread. So let me point this out: when someone makes a product, whatever it is, quality should be what matters first. I am a quality control manager by profession. I always have the customer in mind as I inspect product. In my opinion, and as a knife nut myself, I would have been dissapointed with the sheath as received. I wouldn't have allowed it to go to a customer who waited 5 years. I would have made a new one which was as close to perfect as I could and sold the deficient sheath at a discount elsewhere. The responsibility to make customer amends falls on the manufacturer, NOT the customer, ever. I think, and am sorry if I offend folks here, that people who pay a premium, for a premium product, should get just that. Anything else from a manufacturer is an excuse for shotty work. Now all that said, I'm sure the randall sheath is fine. But if the OP bought it for a collection and not to use, then that's his business. I see it here alot. Folks sticking up for their favorite maker just because.....

OP, obviously not making any friends with this post. If you don't like the sheath, pressure the folks at Randall to pay the shipping to return it and send you a suitable replacement. Now that's what I would expect after a five year wait. If they wont and it bothers you, take your business elsewhere.

Just my two cents. Love Randall's for what it's worth, just hate poor customer service..
 
I want to say that the main purchase is the knife. I am of the opinion that the sheaths are maybe mass produced and are made out of some inferior "leather". I would rather have a sheath custom made to my liking and be happy with it.
 
The Randall fans will be able to answer this I hope. Does not the original sheath add to the collector value of the knife?
 
Thomas Linton said:
The Randall fans will be able to answer this I hope. Does not the original sheath add to the collector value of the knife?
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If the knife is collectable or sought out, then yes. Replacement sheaths are marked for mostly this reason I believe.

Its also the reason the choils are so damn huge, so no one can make a "mini" randall out of a full size.

The differential temper is focused around the stamp and not the entire blade.

Nome of this is for a knife user. It protects collectors value.

My opinion all of it.


About Randalls manufacturing standard....

They are handmade. And they are production knives. I don't know many manufacturers who can do this in America at any level, and they do it with a five year wait list, and options to boot.

I too wish they were more, but they already do manage quite a bit more than any of their competition. (Who is RMK's competition in American handmade production knives?) Most others have failed, automated, or were bankrupted.
 
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I started buying Randall Made Knives in the '60's. One reason was the sheath that came with the knife. I like them and never had a bad sheath come with my knife. A problem is not the norm.
 
Melvin-Purvis said:
Ronnie, we've been through this before. Maurice Johnson is dead. Johnny Johnson is dead. Sullivan's Holster Shop is currently the only authorized maker of leather sheaths for Randall Made Knives, and has been since 1991. You can order a knife without a sheath (-$35) and source one made to your specifications elsewhere. So, enough.
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Sheldon what the heck do you mean...."enough". I didn't start this thread and the name of the thread is "IMO Crap Sheath"! All I did was agree with him and several others.
 
I'm going to play devils advocate here, and say that as time has gone on, and Randalls became more popular, and production increased, we forget there was a time when Randall had to sub out production to Larsen( SPFD) because men needed knives, any knives to defend their lives , and were willing to accept almost anything.... fast forward where popularity is causing a 5 year wait BECAUSE people want the knives, and Randall has chosen NOT to increase production to the point of spewing them out IE :poor quality control. The sheaths are outsourced, a box comes in, opened, sorted, knives matched with sheaths and shipped. I don't know at what stage the "marks " appeared on the sheath, but in the interest of satisfying the customer, the knives are shipped. Most folks could care less, some folks obviously do. I agree that Randall should just replace the darn sheath at their expense, and decide how bad it really is ... junk it, sell at a discount ( I have a bunch of serviceable seconds) , or just ship it again.... It's a PRODUCTION KNIFE, I love them, they are my personal favorites, but it's not like you send in a design, 1 man builds the knife and sheath, one person handles it. How many people could have handled the sheath before it went to the customer? Just a forumites opinion...Some of you sweat the small stuff , some of you don't.... Love you all! Bart RKS#132
 
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