In need of kerosene lamp help

Good lamp oil is expensive. It's been a while and I don't remember exactly what the good stuff cost last time I bought some, but I remember it was always expensive and every time I tried to save a little money on a cheaper brand the smell was so bad I had to throw the stuff out.
 
Referring to the leftovers of old dried oil as a kind of shellac, like you get in small gas engines from old gas. Something that blocks the capillary action of the wick besides water.

I never considered that as being a possibility. But when even fresh wicks are doing the same sparking and crackling, I don't think it's shellacing in the first hour of being saturated.
 
Good lamp oil is expensive. It's been a while and I don't remember exactly what the good stuff cost last time I bought some, but I remember it was always expensive and every time I tried to save a little money on a cheaper brand the smell was so bad I had to throw the stuff out.

Can you recommend some brands of what qualifies as being good lamp oil? Something that can work in flat wicks that're 7/8" wide? The Lehman's website states that the Klean Heat oil is no good six months after opening.
 
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I called Lehman's today to ask them about what type of oil I should use for my wicks. Let's just say that they weren't helpful once they found out we were talking about indoor lamps. The extent of the advice was change the wicks and change the oil.

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Tried the Lamplight ultra pure oil today after ensuring the tank was completely dry, and the wick was fresh. No crackling or sparkling, but light output has been reduced to half that of the Florasense oil when it worked. Is the 7/8" wick too much for proper capillary action to be performed? And if that's the case, why is it working so well in the Aladdin lamp?
 
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I finally decided to contact the company directly regarding the issue of the contaminated oil. MVP Group International is the name attached to it.

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Wal-Mart must've gotten in a new shipment of lamp oil, because they don't have any left that had this specific lot number. Instead it's an all new shipment, with an all new number, and initial testing has shown no sign of contaminants that would cause the wicks to clog and burn.
 
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Okay this is a new one, and I'm not sure what's up. All the contaminated lamp oil is gone so I'm good there, but I'm getting different results from different lamps.

The oil is the same in all of them, the fill height is the same, the wicks are the same, even the burners are the same. The only difference is in the chimneys. The ones with the 10 inch chimneys have a decent flame, but the ones with the 8 inch chimneys have a really strong, bright flame. I can't figure out why that is. When I swap them around the results get swapped with them.
 
could be the draw, there is supposed to be some sort of venturi effect (I made that up maybe) that pulls air in the bottom, maybe the effect is strongest in the 8s. Or maybe the 10s sit a little lower and block some flow?
 
could be the draw, there is supposed to be some sort of venturi effect (I made that up maybe) that pulls air in the bottom, maybe the effect is strongest in the 8s. Or maybe the 10s sit a little lower and block some flow?

It's possible but I don't know. Both chimneys are the standard model with the 4 inch bulge, and both of them have the bulge about 1.25" away from the base. Both of them sit pretty much the same on the burner.
 
I'm not an expert, but I have been using various oil lamps for years as accent lights.

First I am a user of only Aladdin Lamp oil for a couple reasons:

1. lowest soot and smell. My wife is very sensitive and this is the only one that she approves of.
2. It doesn't go bad, I have had less than stellar results with other brands.

I understand it is extremely expensive when compared to the stuff available at places like Walmart, but for me the aggravation isn't worth the savings. Also since using aladdin oil, I haven't changed a single wick in any of my lamps and they rarely even need trimming. (I think I haven't changed out any wicks in at least eight years.)

As far as light output, many factors go into it. If you are trying to make a flat wick light brighter, you might be extending the wick too far and the oil is not fully burning. As a general rule flat wick lamps just don't give off enough light for comfortable reading. For the best light output there are two options, first an actual Aladdin light with a mantle. These are expensive somewhat fussy lights that require warm up times and regular replacement mantles as well as being expensive, on the other hand the light output is truly comparable to electric light, think 60 or 100 watt bulb.

The other possibility is a lamp that uses a special burner a Kosmos Oil Lamp Burner they have a special design that threads a flat wick into a circle and provides air to the center of the 'burning donut'. Lamps that use these burners are not cheap, think starting at about a hundred dollars and going straight up from there. There are a couple lamps with this burner for sale at Lehmans site (French Alps brass table lamp) as well as on Amazon. (look for Den Haan Oil Lamps.) I have two and they are far and away my favorite lamps. The light output does go up as they warm up, but being able to turn them down and use them as accent lights gives me great burn times between refilling. I have had zero problems with the one that I use as a desk lamp and honestly I don't think I've even needed to trim the wick in a year or more. I just extend a bit to light, turn it down as it heats up, and then turn way down right before before blowing it out.

Grizz
 
I'm not an expert, but I have been using various oil lamps for years as accent lights.

First I am a user of only Aladdin Lamp oil for a couple reasons:

1. lowest soot and smell. My wife is very sensitive and this is the only one that she approves of.
2. It doesn't go bad, I have had less than stellar results with other brands.

I understand it is extremely expensive when compared to the stuff available at places like Walmart, but for me the aggravation isn't worth the savings. Also since using aladdin oil, I haven't changed a single wick in any of my lamps and they rarely even need trimming. (I think I haven't changed out any wicks in at least eight years.)

Doesn't go bad, you say? Aladdin oil will stay good even if it just sits there in the lamps for years, waiting for a power outage to occur and necessitate being fired up?

As far as light output, many factors go into it. If you are trying to make a flat wick light brighter, you might be extending the wick too far and the oil is not fully burning. As a general rule flat wick lamps just don't give off enough light for comfortable reading.

Yeah that's a commonly presented possibility. But ever since the last power outage that took us by surprise, and spurred by interest in kerosene lights in case of emergency, I've done a lot of reading on the subject. I read early on that best results are had when the wick is kept low and inside the cone where the most air can be drawn through the vent holes.

For the best light output there are two options, first an actual Aladdin light with a mantle. These are expensive somewhat fussy lights that require warm up times and regular replacement mantles as well as being expensive, on the other hand the light output is truly comparable to electric light, think 60 or 100 watt bulb.

I actually picked up one piecemeal not all that long ago. Model 23, still trying to figure out if the threads will work with other model bases, since I'm not a fan of the short, stout tank it comes with. You're definitely not kidding about the light output those things can generate. They have the advantage in light output, but flat wicks have the advantage of providing immediate light during the warm up phase.

The other possibility is a lamp that uses a special burner a Kosmos Oil Lamp Burner they have a special design that threads a flat wick into a circle and provides air to the center of the 'burning donut'. Lamps that use these burners are not cheap, think starting at about a hundred dollars and going straight up from there. There are a couple lamps with this burner for sale at Lehmans site (French Alps brass table lamp) as well as on Amazon. (look for Den Haan Oil Lamps.) I have two and they are far and away my favorite lamps. The light output does go up as they warm up, but being able to turn them down and use them as accent lights gives me great burn times between refilling. I have had zero problems with the one that I use as a desk lamp and honestly I don't think I've even needed to trim the wick in a year or more. I just extend a bit to light, turn it down as it heats up, and then turn way down right before before blowing it out.

Those are fancy, but definitely way outside of my emergency lighting budget.

The limited light output of the flat wicks isn't a major issue for us. It's mainly for emergency situations so we're not stumbling around in the dark, tripping over things. Granted if the power goes down for an extended period it might be a different story.

What I still can't figure out though, is why the light output seems greater with a shorter chimney? The only difference between the two heights is just that, the height. Everything else is the same between them in terms of measurement.
 
As far as sitting in a lamp for years? I just refilled a lamp that has been sitting unused for at least a year a half. (It is a small extremely cheap hurricane type lamp bought for under ten dollars, the last time it was used was camping in 2014.) The lamp was dry, so the fuel obviously does evaporate, but I refilled and lit within five minutes and it is working perfectly. I'd keep a couple candles or flashlights handy to use first and then refill the Kerosene lamps when an emergency occurs...or do what I do and use them somewhat regularly, filling them as needed.

The light output being greater from the shorter chimney probably has something to do with airflow. A column of warm air rises pulling cool air in from the bottom. The taller a chimney is, the more efficiently it does this, which is why chimneys on houses need to be taller than the surrounding roof, if they are too short they don't draw well and the house fills up with smoke. The thing that makes light in a lantern is the burning gas. It could be possible that the taller chimney is getting a more efficient burn, and the flame is less yellow, and more blue. Think about a torch or burner. If the gas is burning without enough oxygen it is a big yellow flame, properly adjusted it is blue, not really bright but much hotter.

Grizz
 
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