CRKT Incoming CRKT M21-14DSFG , Always have wanted to try , but...

jux t said:
Nice comparison pics. How’s the lockup?
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Out of box , really everything works fine . :cool::thumbsup:

Good solid lock up . Nice strong detent . Perfect centering . Pretty good F&F .

The LAWKS makes for not great fidgeting , but adds some confidence for hard use / SD / survival .

It's never gonna be any serious competition for the any of the Taiwan built Cold Steel Tri-ad models , IMO , but still works for what it is .
 
jbmonkey said:
plain edge version.
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Yeah , PE would probably be better with this steel / HT .

But my whole excuse for buying this thing was the Veff . :rolleyes:

I did test on some 250# zip ties and cardboard . Even being careful, I got some slight folding on the tips / edge of the Veff . :(:thumbsdown:

However , the Veff did sharpen up easier than any others I've used . :cool::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
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I bought an old beat up one years ago to do destruction tests on. I wanted to stab it through a car door. Even though I have a family member in the auto repair business, I haven't gotten a good subject to destroy yet. At some point I was looking at the lock and noticed that it would move across the surface of the blade lock surface as you pushed on the blade which didn't inspire confidence. I decided if I was going to test it in stabbing that I would have to build an auxiliary guard to protect my hand. I also have a new model that I like well enough but I wouldn't try stabbing with it. It might be good for camping and things like that.
 
DocJD said:
Yeah , PE would probably be better with this steel / HT .

But my whole excuse for buying this thing was the Veff . :rolleyes:

I did test on some 250# zip ties and cardboard . Even being careful, I got some slight folding on the tips / edge of the Veff . :(:thumbsdown:

However , the Veff did sharpen up easier than any others I've used . :cool::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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You should check out Veff sharpening website!! I had wanted to send him something in a decent steel to add his serrations too just never got around to it n then plum forgot.. Looking at his site has rekindled that want for me now.. Just need to figure out what to send off to him!
I like the CRKT despite all the issues and I certainly eats rope no matter what crap steel it is and that was my main purpose when I got it!!
I'm happy that you are enjoying it too.
 
jfk1110 said:
You should check out Veff sharpening website!! I had wanted to send him something in a decent steel to add his serrations too just never got around to it n then plum forgot.. Looking at his site has rekindled that want for me now.. Just need to figure out what to send off to him!
I like the CRKT despite all the issues and I certainly eats rope no matter what crap steel it is and that was my main purpose when I got it!!
I'm happy that you are enjoying it too.
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:) Cool ! Bet it's not real cheap though .

I'd send something out of very tough steel with good HT .

Not a chopping or baton knife .

Something you otherwise like enough to carry .
 
I just saw AG Russell is selling a bronze model in 12C27 @ 59-61 HRC !!!! Now that is tempting but no Veff serrations!!!! If it had em, me thinks I'd be.pressing add to cart...
 
If they came out with a slightly bigger handled version and/or better steel I'd be happy as heck. I actually like my 10yrs old M21. Next to a fixed Mora, the handle shape is the most comfortable I've ever handled...and I've had a lot of knives over the years. A lot. I wish I could find a knife with the same handle shape, just slightly bigger, but no cheer just yet. A close one is the CS Bush Ranger but the gripping area on the handle is just a hair too short.
 
Splat said:
CS Bush Ranger but the gripping area on the handle is just a hair too short.
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Probably my favorite handle on a folder , but I have just small side of medium hand size .

Fits me like they made it for me , but I've heard guys with big hands say it's a tad too small .
 
I've got 4 Carson CRKTs:

M16-13Z
M16-14Z
M21-04G
M21-14SFG

Just bought them because they looked "bad a$$ed" especially the M21-14SFG w/the Veff serrations. The black version of the knife the OP linked at the top.

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Never liked the built in "hilt" or guard of the 14SFG because it can "catch" when you carry it in your pocket and, as I recall, the lock system is kinda fiddley. So, I think this model is best carried on your belt in an aftermarket nylon sheath.

For EDC pocket carry, the smaller M16-13Z would be much better but the larger M16-14Z (tanto) or M21-04G (drop point) would also work because they don't have the "hilt" that the 14SFG does.

Quality-wise, you get what you pay for. These are "cheap" knives that use cheap parts and cheaper steel. The kind of knives I bought when I 1st started "collecting" but don't buy anymore.

Since I don't "use" any of the knives in my collection and have never used any of these, I can't say how they'd perform but I would not be surprised if any of them failed in some way in actual use.
 
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FWIW, maybe my 10+ yr old M21 was built better back then but I've used that M21 in every way I knife should be used (not a pry bar!) and it's held up fine. Lock still works perfectly and has never failed. I did shorten the blade about 0.5" and made it a razel shape. This knife is still in my rotation along with my CS AD10, American Lawman, Spydercos and many others that all cost considerably more.
 
Sonnydaze said:
I guess they could sell toothpicks if they labeled them Special Forces...
What a SAD JOKE!
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Kit Carson designs had significant impact , IMO . Wouldn't say a joke . :cool:

What CRKT does with their licenses ...could be better . :rolleyes:

The whole military / tactical / survival marketing hype surely gets overdone, but I guess that's what sells . Works on me pretty often . :p
 
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