Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crappy Movie

CS, you could be right. Im going on memory here and that gets fuzzy.
The basic idea was the same: Kurosawa changed his way of making movies, which was considered the greatest in Japanese film history, to something pretty krapulent.
 
DannyinJapan said:
CS, you could be right. Im going on memory here and that gets fuzzy.
The basic idea was the same: Kurosawa changed his way of making movies, which was considered the greatest in Japanese film history, to something pretty krapulent.
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Surely Sanjuro can't be as bad as Sanshiro Sugata 2? Enjoyed the first SS, even if there are hints of it being a nationalistic film. I'd agree they're not up to par with his best, certainly.
 
Sanjuro was an embarrassing joke. I couldnt believe it was actually made by the same guy who brought us the Seven Samurai.
 
Agreed! total garbage. Tried to hard but forgot what was best about Indy. they should never have brought back Karen Allen for a major role. Time hasn't helped her or this series. Just because you can make a sequel doesn't mean you should.
 
The script for this film has been around since 1996 when Frank Darabount (Shawshank Redemption) did the first version. Everyone liked it except Lucas who offered it to M. Night Shyamalan to re-write it (he opted not to). It was then shopped around and finally completed just a few months prior to the shooting schedule began.

In short, National Treasure II stole the plot line from Crystal Skull, not the other way around. In many hollywood productions these days it's survival of the fastest. There aren't many secrets in the industry which is at least as cut throat as any other big business. If the word gets out you are doing a big budget film about Mars every other studio will greenlight Mars films to try and beat you to the punch and either make you look like a Johnny come lately, or at least ride the wave of your marketing campaign if they can get their film into the theaters about the same time as your release.

Spielberg and Lucas certainly didn't steal anything from National Treasure. Blame it on a gigantic production that took almost ten years to get started. You snooze, you loose.
 
If George is innocent, it would be the first time. Star Wars (1977) had so many stolen ideas from Dune (1965) that it should have been sued into a sarlaac's belly.
 
DannyinJapan said:
If George is innocent, it would be the first time. Star Wars (1977) had so many stolen ideas from Dune (1965) that it should have been sued into a sarlaac's belly.
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Are you sneaking Dune into the thread like I try to sneak Parkour into threads? :D ;)
 
I haven't seen the film, and didn't plan to, because it doesn't have the magic formula that makes a good Indy movie:

Nazis, Biblical artifacts, and the desert.

Raiders and Last Crusade had all of those and both were awesome.

Temple of Doom didn't have any of that and it was :rolleyes:
 
DannyinJapan said:
If George is innocent, it would be the first time. Star Wars (1977) had so many stolen ideas from Dune (1965) that it should have been sued into a sarlaac's belly.
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And then J.K. lifted some of Star War's thunder to create Harry Potter:D
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It's all very Jungian, anyway.
 
At the end of the second National Treasure, what was the discussion between Nicholas Cage and the Presidents character? I thought that when the President asked him to take a look at page such and such in the Library of Congress, that it might have to do with Roswell. But, what would an archaelogist have to do with Roswell? Obvious allusion to a sequel...

I did see Indy 4 before National Treasure 2, and I enjoyed it. Not Phantom Menace bad, not Attack of the Clones bad, more than Revenge of the Sith enjoyable. Though not by much. They definitely could have done better.

Overall, I wouldn't ask for my money back for either.
 
thanks for the heads up dannyj thsi days iam very picky of what movies iam going to see , specially for 10$ a pop
 
I am a die hard Indy fan and I will keep the first three in a place of honor on my DVD shelf. This fourth movie just never happened. It doesnt exist.
 
DannyinJapan said:
If George is innocent, it would be the first time. Star Wars (1977) had so many stolen ideas from Dune (1965) that it should have been sued into a sarlaac's belly.
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Not to mention similarities of Episode IV and Episode I with Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress.
 
I don't think I've ever seen anyone accuse STAR WARS of being a Dune ripoff. In fact, I can't really see that at all.

Are you talking about the Dune movie? Because that was about as accurate to the book as Battlefield Earth.
 
Kazeryu said:
I don't think I've ever seen anyone accuse STAR WARS of being a Dune ripoff. In fact, I can't really see that at all.

Are you talking about the Dune movie? Because that was about as accurate to the book as Battlefield Earth.
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I remember loving the Dune books and seeing the movie and saying WTF?

The only good good thing about having read Dune several times before I saw that movie is that I had some idea of what the heck was going on or at least was supposed to be going on. Nobody else could make head nor tails of what was happening.
 
Kazeryu said:
I don't think I've ever seen anyone accuse STAR WARS of being a Dune ripoff. In fact, I can't really see that at all.
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It's too bad Frank Herbert isn't still alive, he could explain it to you in person.
Frank talked about this in one of his books. He found 14 separate plot points that were obviously stolen ideas. There is no question that Star Wars was a mixture of Dune and the Hidden Fortress.

The David Lynch movie did not follow the original book exactly because of time constraints, but Frank was a part of the production and was on the set.
He was happy with how the movie was being made. (He passed on before it was finished.)

Desert planet, teenage boy is related to evil lord and the emperor, (a mystery later revealed in the story), boy joins mysterious group of religious warriors who all fight with special edged weapons, these warriors can control others with their voices, the mother of special twins dies giving birth, a giant worm with a human face, on and on it goes.

Even some of the text was ripped off.
That symbiotic circle thing comes from the Bene Gesserit
"Your mind controls your reality" is also a Bene Gesserit lesson.
The term 3-PO, in Dune, meant an artificial person

I look at Star Wars as "Dune for kids"
 
A friend visited Akira Kurosawa and asked, “Have you seen Sergio Leone’s A Fistful of Dollars?”

Kurosawa said, “No. I hear it’s like Yojimbo.”

“It’s not like Yojimbo. It is Yojimbo. You should sue Leone.”

“I can’t sue Leone.”

“Why not?”

“Because Yojimbo is based on the movie The Glass Key, which came from Dashiell Hammett’s Red Harvest.”
 
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