"Inexpensive" Knives are KING !! ??

HotSteel said:
Silly. Just because someone else may be less fortunate than me doesn’t mean I owe them all my discretionary income. Why did YOU buy a computer instead of giving all YOUR money to the less fortunate? Liberals are only compassionate with other people’s money.

Besides, I do help them with my taxes.
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First Collector: At this festive time of year, Mr. Scrooge, it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the poor and destitute.
Ebenezer: Are there no prisons?
First Collector: Plenty of prisons.
Ebenezer: And the union workhouses - are they still in operation?
First Collector: They are. I wish I could say they were not.
Ebenezer: Oh, from what you said at first I was afraid that something had happened to stop them in their useful course. I'm very glad to hear it.
First Collector: I don't think you quite understand us, sir. A few of us are endeavoring to buy the poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth.
Ebenezer: Why?
First Collector: Because it is at Christmastime that want is most keenly felt, and abundance rejoices. Now what can I put you down for?
Ebenezer: Huh! Nothing!
Second Collector: You wish to be anonymous?
Ebenezer: [firmly, but calmly] I wish to be left alone. Since you ask me what I wish sir, that is my answer. I help to support the establishments I have named; those who are badly off must go there.

Just say'n. ;)
 
ac1d0v3r1d3 said:
I was going to send you a PM. But you don't have them enabled...



If you did a little reading you'd sound less like an idiot. If you want to continue poisoning yourself and your community that's your prerogative as an American. But you really should gain some knowledge before you spout off about things you don't understand.
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You cant beat Walmart prices,and that's all I need to understand.Walmart sells the same dogfood I use for $10.00 cheaper than any other store in town.So does that make it wrong because it comes from Walmart??I dont do all of my shopping at walmart,but they do save me and my family a couple hundred dollars a month.I know my earlier comments were a little out of line,but the mods sent me a warning for personal attacks,and crossed out my post,but I see that the same action wasnt taken for you and this post that I am replying.If youre gonna do your job mods,do it right.I see that it's totally acceptable to be called an idiot,but just as soon as I do the same,they will fly all over my ass.
 
Rednek said:
You cant beat Walmart prices,and that's all I need to understand.Walmart sells the same dogfood I use for $10.00 cheaper than any other store in town.So does that make it wrong because it comes from Walmart??
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That's the problem and one of the main reasons why our nation is in a lot of trouble today, it's so much bigger and more complicated than that.

Every penny that is spent at Wal-Mart is one more nail in the USA's coffin and it takes food out of another American's mouth.

Wal-Mart is the American Corporation at it's worst and most evil point, they are a plague on this country eating away at it from the inside.
 
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1. This is the General Knife Discussion, not the Political Arena. Discuss whether you like inexpensive or expensive knives, but leave Walmart and other political and socio-economic questions out of it.

2. If I need to prune the discussion because this continues, I will probably just close it instead.

3. Calling a moderator a jerkoff because you disagree with his instructions is a keel-hauling offense on this ship.
 
Ankerson said:
You forgot to add the part like when all the other businesses are gone they jack the prices through the roof then close that store down to build another one just outside of town to avoid the taxes they would have had to pay with the same high prices.

What is left is nothing but empty buildings were all the stores used to be and a dead town.

Then they move on to the next town and do it all over again...

Like I said, they are a Plague and no good for the US at all.
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That's the scary truth:mad:

Interestingly enough, Walmart is or was, Buck Knives biggest distributor. Which forced Buck to move approx 30% of their production to China.

I had to take a business course at ECU, one of the books that we had to read was called "The Walmart Effect" VERY interesting read..

Back on-topic, I think there's a place for inexpensive (read not cheap) knives, just as there is for high end knives. Purely a matter of personal preference

Right now my collection runs around the $80-$100 range. Some day I'm going to splurge on a custom. :D
 
I think that 'art knives' certainly have their place. Certainly, it is no different to buy an expensive display knife than it is to buy a painting or sculpture; although it could be reasonably argued that a knife has more of a practical function. I think knife-makers often wear two hats: they are both ‘tool-makers’ and ‘artists’ and often bring ‘form’ and ‘function’ together in a single object.

Aesthetic preference is an entirely personal and subjective perspective. I believe that the same level of enjoyment (or more) can be had in a $30 painting bought off a local street-artist as a several-thousand-dollar piece purchased from a celebrated artist. Or even a free movie poster. Or a mass-produced print sold at the local big-chain store. The same can be said of knives.

Just my two-cents. Carry on… :)
 
I don't buy cheep knives, I buy inexpensive ones. Don't care where their made, or who makes them. If they cost less then 50$ and perform as good at 150 dollar ones I'm game. One thing I have learned in my life, money does not necessarily mean quality.
 
And I went into this thread thinking it was about budget knives????

I'll add this - After owning many CRK's, Hinderer, Strider, etc, you can just have more 'fun' in the $100-$200 range. That's just me though.
 
timberweasel said:
I think that 'art knives' certainly have their place. Certainly, it is no different to buy an expensive display knife than it is to buy a painting or sculpture; although it could be reasonably argued that a knife has more of a practical function. I think knife-makers often wear two hats: they are both ‘tool-makers’ and ‘artists’ and often bring ‘form’ and ‘function’ together in a single object.

Aesthetic preference is an entirely personal and subjective perspective. I believe that the same level of enjoyment (or more) can be had in a $30 painting bought off a local street-artist as a several-thousand-dollar piece purchased from a celebrated artist. Or even a free movie poster. Or a mass-produced print sold at the local big-chain store. The same can be said of knives.

Just my two-cents. Carry on… :)
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And a valuable two cents it is, Timberweasel. You pretty much summed up exactly how I feel about knives in general. One of the reasons that I don't 'mod' my knives, is that I feel that doing so somehow takes away from the integrity of the original creation, a 'slight' to the artist if you will. Now, that is just me and those who do choose to mod their knives have every right to do so.
 
I order a Kershaw Skyline for EDC. I hope to get it tomorow. I can't wait to try it. I think this is my most inexpensive knife and i'm sure to love it. Not just because it's low cost, but it's the fact of a lot of review that I read about something I want to purchase. All these reviews to know if the knife will fit in what I will be doing with it and what I want from it. Maybe my needs are not the same of you guys. But, even if things are low cost or high end, I alway take a lot of time and pleasure to read on how people review it. Sometime it's help sometimes it's not helping me much. But everytime I read on something I feel I take a good descision when buying it. Always fun to be interested on something new and exciting like a new KNIFE and even more if it's low budget.:thumbup:

Dox :)
 
I guess it's relative as to what's "cheap". In the past I've read threads asking about the "best" sub $30 or $50 knife or something like that. I guess it all depends.

For folders, I stay away from cheap. Having said that, there are many Kershaws (Many that are U.S. made, too) that fit the bill, at least say, around $50 or so. Buck's Vantage series is another nice folder, IMHO. I have not owned the lower steel models (420HC & Sandvik), but their Pro with S30V is alot of knife for the $.

I do think it's easier/safer to get away with buying less expensive FBs vs folders. The really inexpensive folders seem to break easy, including locks that are not consistent. I like all my fingers.

For FBs, I think everyone should own a Mora. I also have a Ka-Bar machete & a Cold Steel Bushman that have taken alot of use/abuse & they didn't cost much at all.
 
Ankerson said:
That's the problem and one of the main reasons why our nation is in a lot of trouble today, it's so much bigger and more complicated than that.

Every penny that is spent at Wal-Mart is one more nail in the USA's coffin and it takes food out of another American's mouth.

Wal-Mart is the American Corporation at it's worst and most evil point, they are a plague on this country eating away at it from the inside.
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Please stop...
 
ono724 said:
Interestingly enough, Walmart is or was, Buck Knives biggest distributor. Which forced Buck to move approx 30% of their production to China.
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I'm unsure if "force" is the right word here. Look, no retailer can force you to do anything. You want the business, you go get it, if not, don't. Nobody can force you though. :confused:
 
Ankerson said:
That's the problem and one of the main reasons why our nation is in a lot of trouble today, it's so much bigger and more complicated than that.

Every penny that is spent at Wal-Mart is one more nail in the USA's coffin and it takes food out of another American's mouth.

Wal-Mart is the American Corporation at it's worst and most evil point, they are a plague on this country eating away at it from the inside.
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our problem is we want it all, and union workforces want more money to do less work, etc.. Nobody wants to pay more for the same thing to feed some other lazy american's mouth. production in other countries is now meeting our quality for far lower prices. that coffin is certainly getting nailed shut day by day, but wal mart isn't really to blame.
 
monger4142 said:
our problem is we want it all, and union workforces want more money to do less work, etc.. Nobody wants to pay more for the same thing to feed some other lazy american's mouth. production in other countries is now meeting our quality for far lower prices. that coffin is certainly getting nailed shut day by day, but wal mart isn't really to blame.
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ok now i agree with you but i just want to say as a union member for both the american welding society and commercial divers id like to see any non union member do my work at the same quality for the same price
 
brets-ftw said:
ok now i agree with you but i just want to say as a union member for both the american welding society and commercial divers id like to see any non union member do my work at the same quality for the same price
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I find your statement highly improbable, in fact almost ridiculous but I respect your opinion. Now, IMO non-Union skilled trades can probably do your job just as well and for a lot less money - not that they'd want to but because they don't have a heavy hammer at the bargaining table very 3 to 4 years.

As a life long member of 3 AFL-CIO members: Airline & Steamship Clerks, Steelworkers & UAW I'd have to say that plenty of non-Union tradesmen can do our jobs just as well and in some cases better. The platinum insurance packages, annual wage hikes, cost of living increases we used to enjoy may be a thing of the past.

When I retired, our UAW plant was already losing various payroll perks, like paying medical co-pays that were increasing with each contract.

Unions IMO, have nothing to do with today's economic downturn. Remember we're talking multi-trillion dollar deficits!! :eek:

As far as WalMart being a plague that's eating away our country's insides and being a major player in the economic slump - well that's just bologna. I could go on to discredit that claim but it's not worth the time and doesn't merit the space in this thread.

I like getting a good deal on a decent folder and almost sprung for an A/O knife last year while waiting for them to unload a truck at WalMart that contained a single case of 9mm rounds. I called ahead and sat there waiting so I could grab them. Last year I did a lot of ammo stockpiling and am good to go in my chosen calibers. ;)

Let's enjoy our inexpensive knives if we're so inclined to buy them, I can assure you that they have nothing to do with our National Debt which as of today is $14,266,172,839,808.89 http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ and http://tonyrushblog.com/what-does-a-trillion-dollars-look-like :eek:

cziv said:
.......I've owned all of the budget Spydercos and only kept the Resilience because of it's gigantic blade. High value for low $$ knife IMO.

If these are made like Cold Steel models, in Taiwan or Japan, even China. They are imported back into the States, marketed, distributed and sold with taxes being paid to our govt. and wages being earned by dealers, advertising companies, delivery entities, customer service reps. etc...

So, a lot of that money from foreign assembled knives does come back into the banks of our govt. and countless other companys and employees who are set in place to deliver the knife to the end user.

Most of my knives are made in the USA right now, but not by design, it just worked out that way. I do like "my" expensive knives, they're really well made and will last longer than me. Just my $.02 :)
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