INFI blades!

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Hey guys,

I am looking for various manufacturers that use INFI steel other than Busse, Scrapyard and Swamp Rat. Also can be custom makers...so post em up!

Thanks,
Floyd
 
For INFI, look no farther than the BCK. You won't find INFI anywhere else. :)
 
Busse is the only one that uses INFI and it's Patented.

However there was a short run of Bussekin blades.
 
Usually only Busse but Scrapyard Knives who is affiliated with Busse produced a run of Scrapper5s in INFI.
 
the scrapper 4 is infi but other than an occasionaln sister company busse is the only one
 
Like has been said, no one but Busse & Busse family of knives uses that.
 
Question, when they say "proprietary" what does that really mean? I find it hard to believe a steel company manufactures a steel just for Busse.

I thought I read somewhere that it's very very similar to a common steel, but the heat treat is unique.
 
I've read for years that its a steel made "just" for Busse. I use to work for a small aerospace firm and I can tell you, we used lots of different steels/alloys and it appears it would be cost prohibitive to make up a special steel for a small knife company.
 
As others have stated, it's the heat treat. I think Swamp Rat (or maybe Scrap Yard) has on their website a small blurb outlining the heat treat process they use, in that it takes over 40 hours to complete, rather than the simple couple hours most attribute to a heat treat.
 
As others have stated, it's the heat treat. I think Swamp Rat (or maybe Scrap Yard) has on their website a small blurb outlining the heat treat process they use, in that it takes over 40 hours to complete, rather than the simple couple hours most attribute to a heat treat.

So do I understand your post, that it's not really a proprietary steel, but instead a proprietary heattreat? That would make sense to me.
 
Both the steel and the heat treat are proprietary. The formula for INFI has been posted many times.
 
There are foundrys that will take a steel, like A8 modified, and tweak it a bit for you if you are going to buy the whole heat. Buying a batch of steel gives you the opportunity to have it done your way, including rolling into the size specified . Stuff like that. The infi formula is very similar to an off the shelf steel, just a bit changed.

When talking about the "heat treatment" that might include in your definition normalization cycles, austenitizing, cooling ( which can be over a long time with some steels), tempering, sometimes several times, even cryo. etc.

Saying a 40 hour heat treat cycle probably takes this kind of different steps of the production process and groups them together. Looking at it like that a "40 hour" heat treat isn't all that uncommon or exceptional for some of the alloy steels, especially from the air cooled class that may have to cool at, say 25 degrees per hour for instance. The actual heat treat hardening, or "austenitizing" temp., once it is reached may only be 20 to 30 minutes. The way I explain it sure isn't very good. The best way is to look at some of the steels on the manufacturers websites and read the heat treatment instructions. Repeating a mantra about a 40 hour cycle that is proprietary does not mean that much to someone that has made knives, or been involved with heat treats.

Infi is a fine steel, but so was carbon V. Their names are made up marketing tools though, nothing more. Personally I'd rather really know what I was buying, but not everybody sees it that way.

It's not a secret in the industry any more than Carbon V was, nor is 40 ( appx) hours for the production heat treat cycle all that unique for production of fine tools, which is what Busse knives are.

I don't really care for some of the hype, and for sure I don't like their marketing strategy, but there is no denying they are quality tools. Not worth the price to me, but fine quality nonetheless. The finish and edge geometry of non custom ground knives are not my style either.
 
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When i was in Florida about a year ago i visited a tactical knifemaker who also manufactures industrial knives.(well, actually it's the other way around)
He told me that he used to use the steel now known as INFI for industrial blades used for cutting rubber, and quite a lot of it.
He said that at a certain point in time that specific steel was discovered by Jerry Busse who bought the exclusive rights to it, and from then on he himself couldn't order it from the mill anymore.

True story, or so i was told.
The knifemaker wants to remain anonymous.
 
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