INFI vs. 60 NiTiNOL PM?

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Anyone have any idea how the new Crucible non-steel alloy offering used by Strider in a recent SMF run stacks up to INFI? Just as S30V was developed with the help of Chris Reeve, 60 NiTiNOL PM (not NiTiNOL, but 60 NiTiNOL PM) was developed with the help of Duane Dwyer...
 
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Kinda sounds like a sleep aid to me? :confused:
 
I think all. Boutique Stainless is overrated and expensive. I priced some S30V in .250 and changed my mind quick. Its my biased opinion but polished or coated tool steels or INFI. We have all put them to the test! When I flexed my first INFI at 61.5 RC hardness. I was amazed and so were a shop full of old school machinists
 
I would like to assume that Busse is not resting on it's laurels, but instead that Jerry keeps a watchful eye on new steels, gets a sample if the paper specs appear promising, makes some knives, beats on them unmercifully, and casts them aside as found wanting. If and when he finds a steel that provides a better all around balance of properties than INFI, he would switch.
 
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60 NiTiNOL was not "co-developed" by duane dwyer; it was developed in the 60's by the Naval Ordinance Labs. 1962 to be exact. dwyer is merely one of the first persons to actually use it as a cutlery steel.
 
John Moore from Mission Knives was talking about using a form of Nitinol for some of his knives about 10yrs ago. I don't know if that ever came to being. From what I remember....he said that it was titanium with high contents of Nickel that can be hardened to 62+ RC. I didn't even know that Strider is now using Nitinol.

Dwayne,

Nitinol does sound like a sleep aid now that you mention it :eek: LOL!:D
 
It is pretty expensive material, a custom Strider folder that normally cost $950 is $2200 when the blade is the NiTiNOL! :eek: I don't think I would want to spend $1000 on a Culti.................

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I don't see a need for it for someone like me and regular old camping applications. I bet it would excell at some taks needed for specialty fields in wet environments or maybe some military needs but it would just be a novelty for the average person I would think and especially at that price.
 
resinguy said:
I would like to assume the Busse is not resting on it's laurels, but instead that Jerry keeps a watchful eye on new steels, gets a sample if the paper specs appear promising, makes some knives, beats on them unmercifully, and casts them aside as found wanting. If and when he finds a steel that provides a better all around balance of properties than INFI, he would switch.
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This is also what I have come to believe, as yes INFI is great but I believe if Jerry found something better that met his criteria he'd be using it.
 
yep, sounds like a sleep aid to me.

if Jerry found better recipe, so to speak, now that INFI is such a brand identification thing - I'd guess he'd just change the recipe and it would still be INFI (like INFI plus or something). Right? I mean, isn't Busse the only company using INFI for anything, and isn't it really just a marketing name for his unique recipe rather than an industry standard or something? (just wild assed guesses...)
 
nut_sak_himself said:
60 NiTiNOL was not "co-developed" by duane dwyer; it was developed in the 60's by the Naval Ordinance Labs. 1962 to be exact. dwyer is merely one of the first persons to actually use it as a cutlery steel.
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That would be true -- according to my old buds at the N.O.L. :)

Nothing for anyone to feel sheepish about -- many alloys and mixtures have been 'invented,' forgotten, and then re-discovered again.
 
The steel has very unique properties, but what benefits as a knife steel, especially a 2k folder? You can bend it in half, put it in hot water and it re-shapes itself? WHy not springing back into shape instantly? Kind of like what Big Dave Brown does with his AK!
 
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The steel has very unique properties, but what benefits as a knife steel, especially a 2k folder? You can bend it in half, put it in hot water and it re-shapes itself? WHy not springing back into shape instantly? Kind of like what Big Dave Brown does with his AK!
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The metal does not keep these proprieties once heat treated, or so I have been told
 
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