Infi?.

I was asking for comparisons based on edge retention.I have more blades in S30v than any other steel so i used that as a comparison.
I have the Mule in 52100 which is the only carbon steel i own and apart from rust problems with the steel it holds a really good edge IMO would it be better comparing it to that?.I know INFI would not have the same rust problems i maintain all my blades anyyway i just found that Mule still rusted if i didnt oil it after every use.
Like i said in the origanal post i wouldnt ever try and compare S30v with the toughness of INFI just edge retention.
 
Wear resistance is pretty good, I'd say edge holding for general purpose is about as good as s30v. It's not quite as wear resistant but the toughness applies to the edge too so they sort of balance each other out.
 
I can't stand s30v. In fact if I have a choice in a folding knife, I will take ats34, bg42, D2 and several others before it. I have seen it chip too many times.

the only CPM steel worth it's salt is cpm3V and that is the one you should be comparing to INFI. Is 3V the steel you meant to say? if so, it is an excellent steel with great wear and toughness qualities. I prefer INFI, but 3V would be my next choice.
 
As long as you're cutting something that won't chip s30 I think they're fairly close. 3v is a far more comperable steel but it's not what the OP has to compare with.
 
yoda4561 said:
Wear resistance is pretty good, I'd say edge holding for general purpose is about as good as s30v. It's not quite as wear resistant but the toughness applies to the edge too so they sort of balance each other out.
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Thats great wear you get from INFI then and will obviously be way easier to sharpen than S30v.Thanks for the comparison its easier to base my judgement on that.
 
Cobalt said:
I can't stand s30v. In fact if I have a choice in a folding knife, I will take ats34, bg42, D2 and several others before it. I have seen it chip too many times.

the only CPM steel worth it's salt is cpm3V and that is the one you should be comparing to INFI. Is 3V the steel you meant to say? if so, it is an excellent steel with great wear and toughness qualities. I prefer INFI, but 3V would be my next choice.
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I wasnt looking for personel opinions on S30v just a comparison of edge retention why would that be to hard to compare?.
CPM make several fine steels are you saying cpm M4 for example is a bad steel they also produced there version of D2 so if you prefer that in a folder then cpm makes it better.S30v is fine as a stainless IMO in folders and small blades although i prefer 12c27 for ease of sharpening.
I dont have any cpm3v to compare it to as i said the only carbon knife i have is the Mule so i try and use that as a comparison if comparing edge retention with S30v is to much for you.
 
These_Nutz said:
I dont own any INFI blades and havent used any.
My questions is how does the steel compare to others in regards to how long it holds a edge?.
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I guess you cannot do a search since I think that privilage was taken away from non paying members:confused: thus it is hard for you to search out things like the below

but anyway, to answer your question more appropriately and to the point of edge holding, S30V has not shown that it can cut as much as INFI, so the question should actually be, can S30V cut as much rope in a public verifiable Blade Show with other knifemakers in attendace as proof. See below:


Turber said:
Mike Turber
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Busse Combat Knives test at the Blade Show!

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Jerry and I talked about doing a test at the Blade Show and we did just that. Unfortunately we could not make a big scene about it so we went out back and just whacked away at some 1" hemp rope. The test was a simple rope cutting test. He held the blade against the rope and pushed it through the hemp rope. Jerry wanted to show me that his basic line (Which I just picked up as a distributor) would do everything he claimed.

Up to this point all tests on Busse's knives where done in house without anyone outside of the Busse camp witnessing the results. Well not this time. We did this test right out in the open and many BladeForums members could watch the test. Several people came by and watched at least part of the test which went on for quite a while, nearly 3 hours!

Those who watched at least part of the test were:
Les De Asis, Kit Carson, Rob Simonich, Bob Taylor, Field & Stream magazine and many forum members plus several people I did not know.

The test was simple. We placed a 2X4 on a table and clamped it down. We made guides, to lay the rope down on the 1&1/2" track the rope would lay on, for the cut by simply drilling some screws into the wood. Then Jerry took out a HUGE roll of hemp from his van. Jennifer (Jerry's wife) and I both would count the cuts. We each had a calculator and simply added each cut as it went through.

We used a Basic #9 for the test. We marked the blade with a marker so Jerry would be able to easily see and use the same part of the blade. I was amazed Jerry wanted to do this test even though his hand is still recovering from his accident.

Anyway I will cut to the chase as I am still tired from the show and this very poorly written review is a Testament to that.

Jerry's previous rope cut test with a Basic #9 made it to 1,254 cuts. This is truly amazing but the fact was that he video taped this test and he told me the reason they stopped at that count was because he was running out of video tape. Well for our test he did not need a video tape as I witnessed the entire test from start to finish.

How many cuts did we get?
2,771!
And we only stopped there because we ran out of rope!

After the 2,000th cut I was still able to shave my arm! At the 2,500 mark it lost the ability to shave but still sliced through paper really well. Lori took several pics of me shaving my arm and I will post those soon as well as the pics of the test.

Folks this is the most amazing thing I have ever scene when it comes to knives. During the test I wondered if the knife was actually just getting buffed by the rope. We even had hit the screws on the board at least 6 or so times. I was truly impressed and this has wet my appetite for a more complete test of the Basic line as soon a they ship.

I am tired and must get some sleep so look for more posts later.

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Mike Turber
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Do it! Do it right! Do it right NOW!
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INFI is the Best overall steel:thumbup:

But I also love the S30V CRK puts on there sebenza. Chris doesn't harden it to what others do and it makes a huge differance. If hardened to 60 or more S30v can chip a bit more easy than some other high quality steels. At around 57/58 it's great for a small non chopping blade. Mine really holds an edge well.

There are MANY great steels today, but feel INFI has them beat overall.
 
Cobalt said:
I guess you cannot do a search since I think that privilage was taken away from non paying members:confused: thus it is hard for you to search out things like the below

but anyway, to answer your question more appropriately and to the point of edge holding, S30V has not shown that it can cut as much as INFI, so the question should actually be, can S30V cut as much rope in a public verifiable Blade Show with other knifemakers in attendace as proof. See below:
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Thanks for the info.
I didnt expect it to be that good i knew it would be good but still shaving sharp after 2000 cuts is insane.
No wonder the stuff gets so much praise.
 
Ken44 said:
INFI is the Best overall steel:thumbup:



There are MANY great steels today, but feel INFI has them beat overall.
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These_Nutz said:
Thanks for the info.
I didnt expect it to be that good i knew it would be good but still shaving sharp after 2000 cuts is insane.
No wonder the stuff gets so much praise.
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even if you don't believe there's much difference.. Please try it for yourself. Its even more impressive as a chopper.

Either way you cut it ..there is nobody as cool or as much fun as Jerry and his Crew!

So maybe that will count for something:cool:
 
Edge strength is important. you never want to torque a knife edge since it puts more stress than necessary on it.:D


 
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