INFIcoot value?

GrumpyGumby

GrumpyGumby

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Was just curious as to the percieved value of INFIcoots now that the SS4 has been released in INFI in what appears to be larger numbers. Granted they are not identical blade designs, but pretty similar.

Do they still command the same amount in your eyes?
 
IMHO, for me...

Scrapper 4 = ok
Inficoot = awesome

Scrapper 4 = will eventually be sold
Inficoot = will go with me to my grave

End result - Inficoot = damned near priceless
Scrapper 4 = very good for $140, but not an Inficoot!!!

Again, just my .02.
 
OTE, do you mind telling us your rationale? I'm curious because I wanted an inficoot but never got my hands on one. Is it the mudder grip, or what. The blade length and shape almost seem the same. Anyway, thanks.

pete
 
pedropcola said:
OTE, do you mind telling us your rationale? I'm curious because I wanted an inficoot but never got my hands on one. Is it the mudder grip, or what. The blade length and shape almost seem the same. Anyway, thanks.

pete
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I don't have the blades in front of me, but...

I recall when I first held the Scrapper, my thought was, "damn, this feels very light, almost flimsy." I am pretty sure the INFIcoot is heavier, probably owing to a longer blade and just more handle material. Within certain limits, I prefer slightly heavier to slightly lighter. I like the feeling that the INFIcoot just feels more substantial.

The mudder grip is ok, but it feels so soft/lush that it IMO does not feel like it is as tough as the INFIcoot handle. The handle on the Scrapper also appears to be two pieces which come together at the center of the spine, as opposed to the one-piece on the Inficoot. All Res-C might be created equal in terms of toughness, but when push comes to shove, my $ is on the solid INFIcoot handle versus any two-piece handle.

I also don't really care for the Scrapper rounded polished spine--I know, strictly subjective. I again prefer something with a little bit of edge.

Hope that helps.
 
here is an INFI-Coot. I paid $199 secondary market as i recall (knife only), and have seen them go for 200-275 with plain black kydex.

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Personally, i would not sell mine for anything close to market value... as i too think it is just too perfect. There are a few knives out there, that really are valued (by me anyhow) at way above market value, and seem to be bargins at mv. The INFI-coot is one, and the battle rat is another. When you see camptrams going for near 300 and larger battlerats sitting for 200, you will know what i mean- One just becomes a bargin for its relative quality/size etc.
Funny you metion the INFI-coot this way,... as in my FS thread I listed mine at $5000 as a joke, including a note that its market value was $275, but i would not sell for under $5000. (I got offers, but turned them down,... she is a keeper till the end as far as I am concerned... and that was the point of the rediculas price)...
 
I have both and prefer the inficoot too. I agree that the coot seems like it would be a little tougher and the fit and finish is better on my inficoot than it is on my scrapper 4. I'm pretty sure that both handles are made the same way - injection molding the resC over the tang so they should both be plenty strong. The line in the middle is just where the two halves of the mold come together and if you look closely you should be able to see it on the inficoot as well.
 
on_the_edge said:
I don't have the blades in front of me, but...

I recall when I first held the Scrapper, my thought was, "damn, this feels very light, almost flimsy." I am pretty sure the INFIcoot is heavier, probably owing to a longer blade and just more handle material. Within certain limits, I prefer slightly heavier to slightly lighter. I like the feeling that the INFIcoot just feels more substantial.

The mudder grip is ok, but it feels so soft/lush that it IMO does not feel like it is as tough as the INFIcoot handle. The handle on the Scrapper also appears to be two pieces which come together at the center of the spine, as opposed to the one-piece on the Inficoot. All Res-C might be created equal in terms of toughness, but when push comes to shove, my $ is on the solid INFIcoot handle versus any two-piece handle.

I also don't really care for the Scrapper rounded polished spine--I know, strictly subjective. I again prefer something with a little bit of edge.

Hope that helps.
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How do you figure the handle on the INFIcoot is one piece? I don't have an INFIcoot but I do have a Bandicoot and a couple other rats and a scrapper 6 with the resiprene handles all of which are the same as used on all, but one, fixed blade swamp rat knives. While the "joining line" on the mudder handles is more pronounced on the scrapper 4 I can clearly see the same line on the other knives implying they are two-piece as well. Did the INFIcoot have a special handle or something. Also, while the mudder handle might not feel as tough to you it is made of the same material as the INFIcoot.
 
I just sold my Scrapper 4, as I found that I liked the feel of the handle of my Bandicoot much better, not willing to pay the price for an INFI coot, but am looking at buying another Bandicoot, although I just got my Little Mischief and may give it a go (once I get a decent sheath) before I buy another 4".

GregB
 
Can't make a comparison, but I do own an Infi Coot. My Coot is about as perfect a little knife as one can be. Very comfortable to hold/use. Great cutting edge. Yet, very strong. It's a great hiking, camping, general use knife.
 
geneepi said:
How do you figure the handle on the INFIcoot is one piece? I don't have an INFIcoot but I do have a Bandicoot and a couple other rats and a scrapper 6 with the resiprene handles all of which are the same as used on all, but one, fixed blade swamp rat knives. While the "joining line" on the mudder handles is more pronounced on the scrapper 4 I can clearly see the same line on the other knives implying they are two-piece as well. Did the INFIcoot have a special handle or something. Also, while the mudder handle might not feel as tough to you it is made of the same material as the INFIcoot.
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Well, again, I am responding from work and don't have the knives in front of me so I am at somewhat of a disadvantage trying to recall exactly what I saw. If you want, I can look at things again later when I get home.

Also, like I already said, Res-C is Res-C, but IMO, that does not mean all Res-C is created equal. If the Res-C on the Coot is thicker than it is on the Scrapper, I am inclined to think that it will be a little tougher. Take fabric, as an analogy--thicker cotton fabric is tougher to tear, and will wear longer than something that is thinner before disintegrating or ripping.

Also, as you already know, put a slice in a Coot handle and you can mend it carefully with a match so as to be undetectable and as good as if there had never been a slice in it to begin with. With the textured look on the Scrapper handle, I defy anyone to make such a repair that is undetectable to the casual observer.

Don't get me wrong--the Scrapper is a great little knife for the price (I already said that too), and some may prefer it to anything they have handled before. Each to his own opinion, nothing wrong with that at all. But again, for me (and I guess a few others here who actually do have INFIcoots), the INFIcoot seems to be preferred.
 
I don't like my inficoot nearly as much. the blade is too small for the large, yet small handle.
 
on_the_edge said:
Also, like I already said, Res-C is Res-C, but IMO, that does not mean all Res-C is created equal. If the Res-C on the Coot is thicker than it is on the Scrapper, I am inclined to think that it will be a little tougher. Take fabric, as an analogy--thicker cotton fabric is tougher to tear, and will wear longer than something that is thinner before disintegrating or ripping.
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Wasn't your complaint that the Scrapper handle was two piece as opposed to the coot which you say is one piece (they are both "two piece")?
Are you still making that claim? You failed to address that point and are now using a thickness and repair issue.

The point of the thread was the monetary value of an INFIcoot not everyones subjective view on the knife they prefer. I don't see how the Scrapper will change the value of the INFIcoot at all.
 
geneepi said:
Wasn't your complaint that the Scrapper handle was two piece as opposed to the coot which you say is one piece (they are both "two piece")?.
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My own emphasis added here!

Go back and read my original post. I said "appears to be". That was based on a quick look when I got the knife to make sure that it was ok, my memory, and not having the knife in front of me to view again when I wrote that.

geneepi said:
Are you still making that claim? You failed to address that point and are now using a thickness and repair issue..
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Now read my last post, specifically the part about still not having the knife in front of me. Despite that, I tried in good faith to answer your questions that you posed in response to my answer to GrumpyGumby and pedropcola. Until I have the knife in front of me, then yes, I stand by my original posts.

geneepi said:
The point of the thread was the monetary value of an INFIcoot.
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I am of a different opinion. GrumpyGumpy said "perceived value". By definition, that is a subjective thing. The monetary value of a knife is determined by the market and what a willing buyer with perfect knowledge is willing to pay for it. I have no knowledge of such things, nor do I care about them because I am keeping my Coot. Nevertheless, I tried to give GrumpyGumby an answer that he would find useful. How else should I have phrased my response? It was then followed up by a pedropcola's request to elaborate. I did that as well. That I apparently did not do either of these things to your satisfaction is...well...too bad.

geneepi said:
I don't see how the Scrapper will change the value of the INFIcoot at all.
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I'm sure you can tell me where anyone other than yourself in this thread has said such a thing. However, at this point, I would ask that you respond to me via my e-mail as a courtesy to others here. It's litterbox1@gmail.com. I will anxiously await your reply. :rolleyes:

And to GrumpyGumby, I apologize for letting this thread get astray to the extent that it has already. And to you, geneepi, I am sorry you don't have an INFIcoot. You'll never know, or even admit, what you might have missed.
 
If someone were looking for an INFIcoot, I doubt they would be satisfied with a SS4. On the other hand, if you were looking for a cheapest piece of INFI out there, the SS4 is perfect.
 
To add little content that hasn't already been stated in this thread, I submit the following:

Prices ebb and flow in the secondary market depending on what is (and HAS BEEN) recently available.

No EDCs from the Wauseon three in a while? EDCs go pricey on the secondary market. The same example holds true for choppers and specialty blades like the kensei.

If your sole question is regarding the use and desire for the blade, they are very different blades even from the same class. I like the thin mudder gripped blades a lot but **quickly** sold my Bandicoot due to it irreconcilable differences. Meanwhile, my first-gen Howling Rat has been an almost constant companion in my EDC bag.

GrumpyGumby said:
Do they still command the same amount in your eyes?
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"My eyes" are irrelevant since I wouldn't buy a 'coot again. To answer your question as asked though: "Yes." The 'coots will probably be a bit cheaper for a while, if I had to guess. In fact, the mudder Bog Dogs often sold for as much as the INFIcoot on the secondary market and they were made of D2 or SR101.
 
As the S4 is the first Busse family blade I have bought I find all this fascinating!
I thinkj the coot has the (edge) as far as fit and finish but the S4 has a nicer
handle with the mudder. The battle rats are a heck of a deal. My S4 got here yesterday and I have already cut myself. I really want an inficoot now.
 
I covered my bases,my INFIcoot should be here tomorrow, can't wait! Thanks for the replies everyone!
 
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