Inflation

Just this week I've seen at least three or four total steals on the exchange.
 
There is no conspiracy between buyers and dealers. The only legit Busse dealers are Jerry Busse, idahoskunk and thatmguy. They never ask more than MSRP on their new Busse offerings, which is set by Jerry. All of the flippers on bladeforums charge what the market will bear. I have resellers I trust and one I'll never do business with again. It's up to you who you deal with.

Not all Busses go up in value. For every NMFBM that has doubled in value there's a Sus Scrofa that's lost 20-30% in value.
 
stjones said:
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I have also had some AWESOME deals.
For example I just scored a BOSS Street, slightly used with a Mashed Cat sheath and Lg TekLok for $50 LESS than they originally sold for......
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And who in the right mind would pay more for a used knife than what a new one was selling for?

Looks like we are back, discussing Busse aftermarket prices once again...Juice........;)
 
BigLebowski65 said:
And who in the right mind would pay more for a used knife than what a new one was selling for?

Looks like we are back, discussing Busse aftermarket prices once again...Juice........;)
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Why would anyone pay more for a used knife than what a new one WAS selling for? Oh, I dunno... Maybe because someone comes along, sees a knife they really want, but can no longer buy it through Busse (or any maker no longer making that specific knife).
Why would someone pay more for anything? Baseball cards, old cars (used or new), autographs, firearms, you name it?? ...Because they want it, and quite possibly the only way to get it is to find it elsewhere.
Again, read his full quote. Deals are to be found if one has the patience and the time, has done the research, and knows the details on what they are looking to buy.

stjones said:
I have been watching the XC here for a year and have NEVER pay "to much" for a knife I wanted.
I have also had some AWESOME deals.
For example I just scored a BOSS Street, slightly used with a Mashed Cat sheath and Lg TekLok for $50 LESS than they originally sold for.
Keep your eyes open, view and refresh the XC LOTS and keep your "I'll take it" fingers ready.
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Sounds like a smart Buyer to me. :thumbup:
Juicy... ;)
 
NEWB...I agree with you, and I appreciate you disagreeing with such policies. Please feel free to send me a list of bussekin knives you would like to sell at more appropriate "non-inflated" prices so that I might avoid getting taken advantage of by all of these atrocious Hogs around here. SAVE ME! ;)
 
Most advice comes from the people right here, some of the best are:

Get familiar with the product.

Ask questions of the people on this Forum, there are some very knowledgable people right here.

Use the other forums Busse Enthusiasts offer.

Use the above tools and do your homework.

And I think the biggest is:
Be patient and Don't Impulse Buy!
Impulse buying will cost you more money than it should of almost every time.

Just my 2 cents toward this thread.
 
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I see pricing going down in the Infi market, not up. There has been alot of good deals, except for rare pieces of Infi.
 
Jaxx said:
Why would anyone pay more for a used knife than what a new one WAS selling for? Oh, I dunno... Maybe because someone comes along, sees a knife they really want, but can no longer buy it through Busse (or any maker no longer making that specific knife).
Why would someone pay more for anything? Baseball cards, old cars (used or new), autographs, firearms, you name it?? ...Because they want it, and quite possibly the only way to get it is to find it elsewhere.
Again, read his full quote. Deals are to be found if one has the patience and the time, has done the research, and knows the details on what they are looking to buy.



Sounds like a smart Buyer to me. :thumbup:
Juicy... ;)
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To me there is a difference between buying an old collectable item, and just a used one.
I’m not saying this is not happening, but I’m saying that in my view, those people are nuts.
I did pay more that the prices listed on Busse Collector, but at least those were unused knives, except my SAR 5, I just liked the little improvement that was done to it.
 
I have been fortunate to maintain a consistant buying and selling policy. I buy high and sell cheap.
 
to each his own....
as Jaxx put it in a different thread
just "be informed"
if the asking price is worth it to you,well....
if not,well.....
just be informed
 
I may be off track, but what I think the OP means is that; there is a party or parties who have "dealer" tags who snap up knives which the sellers price reasonably, then turn around and add those knives to their line up at a considerable markup. The only way that this activity will ever cease, is if the non-dealer sellers here prevent it. I.E., add a line to your sales ad that says "No Dealer Sales" and stick to your guns.

Other than that, a buyer determines what he is willing to pay for a knife. If I purchase a knife at too high of a price (I've been quilty of this a number of times), then shame on me. Each person has to determine what a knife is worth to them. If you feel a knife is priced too high, move on. There will be another one, there always is.
 
lsheldon said:
I may be off track, but what I think the OP means is that; there is a party or parties who have "dealer" tags who snap up knives which the sellers price reasonably, then turn around and add those knives to their line up at a considerable markup. The only way that this activity will ever cease, is if the non-dealer sellers here prevent it. I.E., add a line to your sales ad that says "No Dealer Sales" and stick to your guns.
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There is one other way... And I can't say it enough :D ...I think that everyone can agree that this only other way is that folks do their homework on the knife or knives they are wanting. If a Dealer or any Seller lists a knife for way over the average and no one buys it, eventually the person selling the knife will lower the price if they really want it to sell. Of course, with those who are really into collecting Busse's, sometimes we are half hoping that a knife we list for a high price won't sell... Even though we could use the cash we're asking for it, we are kinda hoping it won't go. INFI addicts and all that...! :o;)

lsheldon said:
Other than that, a buyer determines what he is willing to pay for a knife. If I purchase a knife at too high of a price (I've been guilty of this a number of times), then shame on me. Each person has to determine what a knife is worth to them. If you feel a knife is priced too high, move on. There will be another one, there always is.
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While I can agree on this with most knives, it's not always the case. This is where doing your homework pays off. When I first got into Busse's, I saw a knife that I really wanted for sale at a price I thought was too high. I hesitated, and someone else swooped in and snagged it. I then spent the next 2+ years keeping tabs on it as it moved to Europe and back to the US before I finally got another chance to buy it...for a higher price! :eek: Had I known that the knife was a Ganza variant, one of only 8, and the only one of the group without a logo, I would probably have jumped on it the first time I had a shot.

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I now have 2 of these 8... :D

Folks, especially you newer Piglets... Do your homework! If you see a knife you "must have", don't wait to see it for sale before researching all you can on it. Know what you want, and prepare to grab it for a price you find fair. Also, learn the cycles of how Busse's sell on the X...there is a pattern, and it's all there in past threads. ;)
It's the only way to minimize the chances of either paying too much or missing out on "that knife" that grabs your attention. :):thumbup:
 
There's obviously a lot of honest help interspersed with some defensive tones in this thread. As a new Busse collector, I can understand the frustration. Seeing the same guys buy up the individual sales and post them up in massive threads with marked up prices. I feel the majority of sales really are not overly inflated unless it's a truly older, rare item. Nothing wrong with selling things that appreciate in value.

My question is, how are dealers allowed in the Busse XC in the "For Sale By Individuals"? Is this an exception because this is a Busse specific XC subforum? If the rule states dealers "anyone who...purchases items with the intent to resell" it seems like several regulars are pushing the limits without apparant enforcement.
 
I am not claiming any grand conspiracies or gouging and I am not pointing any fingers. I just noticed that after the markup on some "recent" knives + shipping from dealer to regular customer to the next in line, and you add a markup and shipping (even if both are modest) and who doesn't want to lose anything on an "investment" of this "collector" piece. After two or three links in this "chain" you can notice the inflation.

I am not saying that these aren't collector pieces or investments, but I am saying that knives that are only recently unavailable from the shop really shouldn't be inflated like this. Generally trends like this are artificial and don't last long for a given seller or clip of time. I know all about supply and demand and shopping around and knowing your product and appreciate all of the little tidbits from everyone. Generally everyone here is pretty cool and above average in my book. A lot of nice people here. I was just making an observation on the inflation of some pieces from changing hands and bouncing around. I have noticed some of the other practices that other have mentioned and I can see why they thought I might have intended that. I am disappointed at the rapidity I was able to find the bad traits in this market but am also surprised at the small percentage of abusers/ abuses. There seems to be a lot of self regulation here too. I am glad that my post was able to start such a good discussion and look forward to more!

I haven't gotten my first yet and am still looking. Have seen some good deals and missed out on a couple of them but I wasn't in the right place at the right time. Great job to the guys who got the deals, mine will come along and I have made some friends on the way! Always looking for a deal especially since we have a three week old and a three year old keeping me up nights and absorbing all my resources :) Top three I'm looking for are CG NMFBM, CG NMSFNO, and SS4 right now. Not easy or cheap but like I said I will find a deal I can live with at some point. I have the patience..
 
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