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Info needed on this early REVEX
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Looks similar to the plasterer's hatchet that Revex sells today.
Revex HACHETTE PLATRIER 600GR EM - Hâchette CARACTERISTIQUES TECHNIQUES Acier au carbone. Trempe partielle des parties travaillantes (panne et tête de frappe), chauffage par induction et revenu. Dureté : 47 à 58 HRC selon l'outil.
rough translation:
SPECIFICATIONS Carbon Steel. Partial hardening of working parts (down and striking head), induction heating and ???. Hardness: HRC 47 to 58 depending on the tool.
Company info at Revex.fr
Revex HACHETTE PLATRIER 600GR EM - Hâchette CARACTERISTIQUES TECHNIQUES Acier au carbone. Trempe partielle des parties travaillantes (panne et tête de frappe), chauffage par induction et revenu. Dureté : 47 à 58 HRC selon l'outil.
rough translation:
SPECIFICATIONS Carbon Steel. Partial hardening of working parts (down and striking head), induction heating and ???. Hardness: HRC 47 to 58 depending on the tool.
Company info at Revex.fr
I think that the real REVEX is French and here the link http://www.revex.fr/la-societe/historique/
mine came from France via ebay
mine came from France via ebay
Says on that site that Revex of France initially made swords and in 1910 began making hand tools and agricultural implements. And then in 1980 they diversified their lineup more via buying up other specialized companies. Steve Tall pretty much nailed it with regard to what your tool is. There isn't much demand for lathe & plaster hatchets anymore although for some strange reason Revex is still producing them!
Hello 300six,
It is indeed a plaster hatchet but what I'm looking for is what the difference between BRET REVEX and REVEX. There's some antique or old Bret Revex (early French cutler) in France for sale but nothing with the mark REVEX only. This is why I would like to know if REVEX was stamped BEFORE Bret revex OR the mark REVEX was another guy or company...? Anyway if you have any ideas if this head looks good quality or not would be helpful since I'm not an "Axe" expert,
thanks again,
Frank.
It is indeed a plaster hatchet but what I'm looking for is what the difference between BRET REVEX and REVEX. There's some antique or old Bret Revex (early French cutler) in France for sale but nothing with the mark REVEX only. This is why I would like to know if REVEX was stamped BEFORE Bret revex OR the mark REVEX was another guy or company...? Anyway if you have any ideas if this head looks good quality or not would be helpful since I'm not an "Axe" expert,
thanks again,
Frank.
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Agreed.
What do you base that on? It looks like a cheap production axe. We all want our finds to be valuable antiques but most of them aren't.
Thanks everyone for the comments. Don't get angry at me for simply asking if it is good or bad quality...god...
I sincerely respect your opinion regarding my hatchet but TO ME ,she looks older than 1970's or 60's.
Also thanks to flexo for the mold line, I've learn something right there.
I sincerely respect your opinion regarding my hatchet but TO ME ,she looks older than 1970's or 60's.
Also thanks to flexo for the mold line, I've learn something right there.
Probably not cast, Some striking tools are, But most are forged. Especially so high volume products.
Any casting operation worth a damm, That line would be very narrow and uniform.
The 'mold line'described is results between the dies of a closed die forging press.(the dies are a type of mold afterall) Excess material is squeezed out at this point, Another press operation of dies shears off this excess as the part goes on to further finishing process.
The parallel lines of the 'mold line' results of the trimming or shearing dies.
Interesting info Lieblad. Like I said before I know close to nothing on axes. But do you think that I'm far out here if I said that in my opinion, this axe has been made in France in the early 1910 or 20's ? of course there's maybe nothing to compare with SPAIN, GERMANY OR USA but it is definitively not made in the 60's. I also try to sharpen the edge a bit, and this thing is so tick that I will need to use a grinder which I don't like.
Frank
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Impressions only:
1. It's thick on the edge maybe because it has been used and sharpened back a bit.
2. It if is BRET REVEX maybe it is early in the switch to more mechanized production and the "BRET" was dropped from the name before then going on to painted manufacture mark or paper label as is seen in current production.
3. Your head doesn't look to be slip fit like the picture Steve Tall posted of newer production. Might be the angle on the picture though.
4. The handle has a line running from the head down. Maybe not the original handle or a repurposed one. Maybe it's a really uniform split - looking at it in person would answer that one.
I don't know anything about REVEX. All of that is based off the pictures and reading the little info from this post and what I could casually find on the interwebs.
1. It's thick on the edge maybe because it has been used and sharpened back a bit.
2. It if is BRET REVEX maybe it is early in the switch to more mechanized production and the "BRET" was dropped from the name before then going on to painted manufacture mark or paper label as is seen in current production.
3. Your head doesn't look to be slip fit like the picture Steve Tall posted of newer production. Might be the angle on the picture though.
4. The handle has a line running from the head down. Maybe not the original handle or a repurposed one. Maybe it's a really uniform split - looking at it in person would answer that one.
I don't know anything about REVEX. All of that is based off the pictures and reading the little info from this post and what I could casually find on the interwebs.
I can see why you got all excited; Google yields all kinds of purveyors of supposedly authentic pirate, Indian trade and naval boarding weapons that show BRET REVEX stamps. A more reputable site that deals in old tool catalogues mentions there is a film documentary somewhere of the Bret works at Charavines showing the huge variety of agricultural implements (trowels, billhooks etc) they used to make before the factory was closed presumably in the 1960s. That same Site recounts that Revex, former known as Experton Revollier, took over the Bret works. Bret, by the way, is also an abbreviation for Bretagne, a region of France known in the English language as Brittany.
The fact that your baby features a nail puller notch such as is often found on vintage roofing/carpentry tools certainly does detract from the potential of it having been an exotic fighting tool.
Good luck with this and keep digging. Most European businesses can converse/correspond in English so you might want to contact Revex, France via their email at contact@revex.fr attach some pictures and see what they have to say.
The fact that your baby features a nail puller notch such as is often found on vintage roofing/carpentry tools certainly does detract from the potential of it having been an exotic fighting tool.
Good luck with this and keep digging. Most European businesses can converse/correspond in English so you might want to contact Revex, France via their email at contact@revex.fr attach some pictures and see what they have to say.
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Well done sir ! lol
But I've finally get the info from some French expert in antique tools and here the fact:
"Hello,
the plasterer hatchet dates of over 70 years and your is from about 1960s .
The Steel is the XC38 and XC 48 forged
BRET - REVEX = This is the tools manufactured by BRET after being taken by the company REVEX
and Revex is the association of Revollier Experton.
But I've finally get the info from some French expert in antique tools and here the fact:
"Hello,
the plasterer hatchet dates of over 70 years and your is from about 1960s .
The Steel is the XC38 and XC 48 forged
BRET - REVEX = This is the tools manufactured by BRET after being taken by the company REVEX
and Revex is the association of Revollier Experton.
yep, you got it
Of course: abbreviation and/or shortening of company names was happening everywhere in the 50's and 60's. Hence REVollier EXperton