Information concerning a kinfe of mine...

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I have a knife with double blades (one on each side of the handle). It's branded with an "Old Smoky" label on the bottom of one of the blades and is stainless steel from Pakistan. I would like to know what it's worth and where I can buy more like it online. It also came complete with a leather carrying case.

Thanks.
 
Welcome to the forums, pikawel. I hope your time here is both enjoyable and informative for you.

Smoky Mountain Knife Works is surely the seller of the knife you have. Their URL is:
http://eknifeworks.com/webapp/eCommerce/index.html

That's the index page. Look for Frost first, to see if they are still selling that model you have.

Sorry to have to say this, but quite a high percentage of the forumites here, and knife knuts in general, perceive virtually everything that emerges from Pakistan in the way of blades to be POS. (In case you aren't familiar with that acronym yet, it means Piece(s) of S$%t. Most of the steel simply won't take a good edge.

A high percentage of such knives sell at retail under $10, unless you're buying from one of those network sales outfits -- Oh -- Home Shopping Network and the other one -- my memory leaves a great deal to be desired -- if you bought there, you probably paid much more money. They love to sell sets of those knives for $150 and up.

Some would say that even if you only paid $10, you were ripped off. To learn knife values when there is such a surfeit of models out there is difficult, or at least slow. I suggest you consider spending some time on the individual sales forum, and get an idea what knives are selling for.

For some people just beginning in the knife world, there is considerable "sticker shock" at the prices of knives. As a rule of thumb, prices of $40 to $50 are necessary for one to buy a decent new knife. Columbia River Knife and Tool company sells a number of good knives for those prices. Many consider their knives to provide one of the biggest bangs for the buck. Outdoor Edge and Timberline are producing good knives in that same price range. The folding knives htought by many to be the "best" are the Chris Reeve Sebenzas, and Umfaans. THey are over $300. For custom knives, you can pay from about $100 to $30,000. The bulk of them run in the $500 to $800 range, I would guess.

The biggest bargain in the knife world right now is, in fact, at Smoky Mountain - SMKW. On page 3 of the Columbia River - CRKT - listing are 3 varieties of the Mirage model, each for $10. The large is a fairly large knife. The medium is big enough to get most jobs done, and is more discreet.They have the medium in both a plain edge and a fully serrated edge. Some folks believe that the full serrations are better for combat use. An EMT or police officer might have to think about cutting seat belts in a hurry. No doubt the serrations are far more proficient at that, or cutting things like rope or hose.

Please don't be too discouraged by the apparent lack of value of the knife you obtained. Everybody here had to start somewhere, in terms of learning all they know. As time goes on there will be other FNGs, or newbies. There always are. The forum has grown appreciably since I began participation in early February.

Good luck! Use the search feature as often as you have the time to do so. Read the FAQ's. They are full of valuable information, not just the few "this is the way we do things." There is an excellent one on sharpening, and another on steel composition. Oh -- by the way, Pakistani steel has been called "butter steel" on occasion.



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It also came complete with a leather carrying case. Thanks.[/B]</font>

My gosh, listen to yourself man!!! "It also came complete with a carrying case" They've got you brainwashed!!! You're starting to sound just like their sales. You came here just in time, we will redeem you!!!! Soon you will a Randall collection!!!!
 
Welcome! Excellent - and succinct - advice from Bugs. In our embryonic stages of knife knuttiness, we have all purchased one, or two, POS knives. IMHO, it is a valuable learning experience - as long as you end up here eventually. For learning about REAL knives, this place is Harvard, Oxford, Juilliard, MIT, Cambridge, USC, etc. all rolled into one!
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Bugs,

Well said.

Keep the Pakistani knife. You can use it to drill your sharpening technique, and drill, and drill, and drill....

When you can get it sharp without removing alot of metal you will be ready to sharpen a better knife.

 
Thanks for the information. Heh, I threw in the bit about the most likely artificial carrying case as a joke. Anyhow, I bought this knife and a paper shredder off some crackhead for $10 total. I figured, "hey, $10 for a paper shredder... cool... oh, a knife too? Alrighty..."

I really do appreciate all the information you threw my way, Bugs. I may actually start a knife collection and when I do, my POS (nooch) first knife will be omitted from the collection.

Thanks a million, chieftans!
 
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