Intentional obfuscation of where their knives are made?

[3-1-1]

I love Cutlery Corner. So great for a chuckle.

 

[eveled]

Frost has never made knives, far as I know. They've certainly designed some then had them manufactured overseas to their specs. SMKW, Parker, Taylor, Cold Steel, and many other brands also have knives manufactured to their specs overseas.

Frost and SMKW also seem to have rebranded knives not of their original specs over the years.

Back in the 80s, many knives were sourced from Seki City Japan and were excellent quality.

Once production costs in Japan rose, they shifted to Taiwan, then China, and many knives today are sourced from Pakistan.

Each time they went with a cheaper source, overall quality seemed to slightly decline. I've seen very good knives from Taiwan and even China, but mostly garbage from Pakistan.

There was a time when American made Camillus was the goto cheap manufacturer if you wanted to outsource.

 

[Monofletch]

Does it matter if the knife was assembled in the USA with screws made in Bangladesh?

 

[TC]

I would add that it's unsettling/maddening that the non-capitalist, central control and command economy (aka ) is able to produce high quality at ridiculous prices.

Drifting off topic here a bit (sorry), but I believe the biggest folly of the West was giving them access to advanced machine tools. They now have CNC farms pumping out products with the same quality as any western company can do. What their long term aim is is easy enough to see. As Lenin said, "the capitalists will sell us the rope we will hang them with."

 

[P.C.E.]

Drifting off topic here a bit (sorry), but I believe the biggest folly of the West was giving them access to advanced machine tools. They now have CNC farms pumping out products with the same quality as any western company can do. What their long term aim is is easy enough to see. As Lenin said, "the capitalists will sell us the rope we will hang them with."

Restricting tooling was never going to happen. Look at Taiwan.

Imagine if China restricted gunpowder, compasses, paper and printing.

At some point everyone wants (or will want) to trade. Be informed and vote with your wallet.

 

[TC]

Or when a Custom maker really isn't making Your knife. But has a team of guys doing the heavy lifting instead of the actual "Maker"

That's exactly why I stopped buying Raphaels, da Vincis, and Rembrands.

https://www.worldhistory.org/article/1611/life-in-a-renaissance-artists-workshop/

 

[JPD1998]

Ah yes..... Frost Cutlery... took a great German brand, Hen and Rooster, turned it into a shell game of where they're made.

 

[jbmonkey]

That's exactly why I stopped buying Raphaels, da Vincis, and Rembrands.

https://www.worldhistory.org/article/1611/life-in-a-renaissance-artists-workshop/

I seem to remember Van Gogh was a failed artist his whole life. never sold any of his paintings except to his brother the art dealer. he would travel to learn and copy other sucessful artists styles to improve. ironically look at his works value today compared to those he copied........

but no one's gonna look at a ganzo like that in the future

 

[HerringtonKevin74]

There was a time when American made Camillus was the goto cheap manufacturer if you wanted to outsource.

The Seki knives in early 80’s were great. Too bad Frost and Parker were only interested in the cheapest source.

 

[HerringtonKevin74]

Ah yes..... Frost Cutlery... took a great German brand, Hen and Rooster, turned it into a shell game of where they're made.

This is exactly the garbage of which I speak.

 

[TheOne45]

If US company is buying parts from China and use them in their products why blaming China? I would blame the company.

 

[JPD1998]

This is exactly the garbage of which I speak.

Yes, the H&R knives are the hardest to figure out, they still use the green box, but it says "German Steel" on it.
When I got this knife, I figured "German Steel" meant "made in China", but a European member here said these were made in Spain.
There's no country of origin stamped on the knife.

 

[TheOne45]

but it says "German Steel" on it

Yes, some companies arround here used to promote their products with "German this" and " German that".
People used to think those days everything comes from Germany is top notch quality.
My father stil has a copy of SAK from Czech republic promoted as German steel.

 

[tyr_shadowblade]

I seem to remember Van Gogh was a failed artist his whole life. never sold any of his paintings except to his brother the art dealer. he would travel to learn and copy other sucessful artists styles to improve. ironically look at his works value today compared to those he copied........

but no one's gonna look at a ganzo like that in the future

Hitler, Zimmerman, and Biden were all substandard artists, yet their primitive childlike works command top dollar due to the notoriety of the artist, much like "outsider art" rendered by incarcerated serial killers... Gacy for example.

Van Gogh sliced off an ear to send to a prostitute he fell in love with that no longer wanted anything to do with his creepiness, and he painted his final and arguably best works in a mental institution... that's a cool backstory.