Interesting DPx factor article

R.A.T. said:
Mike and I looked at a 94 Land Rover Defender the other day on a local lot. They wanted 25K. It was nice though.
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I looked at one of those real hard and ended up with a H1 for a short while. Both are mistakes imho.

I had a 72 Fj that I redid and converted to power steering. Actually, that is how I picked my screen name, at the time the Cruiser was my project.

Toyota's are really hard to beat. If I was thinking D-90 though, I'd look for a Rubicon.
 
older Toyota's and Nissan's were awesome , they don't make them like that anymore . :grumpy:
 
My dad's got a '93 Yota pickup. It's been a pain in the butt since he got it, and has cost him a lot of money in parts and labour over the last 6 years or so. A friend of mine has a '95 4Runner - pretty much the same deal.
Another friend had an '81 Yota 4X. The thing ran like crap, but kept on going.
I've got a '93 Subaru Loyale with a 4" lift and Super Swampers. Hardly cost me a dime since I got it and put the lift/tires on. I know people who have put these things through the mill - they keep on going.
 
So, the magic question is, if I were to purchase one of these mythical Toyota beasts that is a pre-1994, what can I expect in repairs? What does go wrong with them that I can expect to be saddled with by a dishonest person on the used car market? :)
 
In my dad's case with the '93, the things that come to mind are:
Major rust issues (the frame can go bad, even if the body is passable)
Exhaust
Expensive clutch repairs (lots of labour)
Mystery clunking noises and squeaking noises from suspension (to the point of being scary)
Electrical system issues
Fuel injection issues
Can't remember what all else right now. Oh yeah - really bad gas mileage, even after spending $$ on getting the FI system up to par.
 
Don Rearic said:
So, the magic question is, if I were to purchase one of these mythical Toyota beasts that is a pre-1994, what can I expect in repairs? What does go wrong with them that I can expect to be saddled with by a dishonest person on the used car market? :)
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Pre-1994 Rust is the biggest problem if the toyota is carry a legal inspection sticker most everything else could be minor issues......
check the lights,blinkers,reverse lights ,interior light, instrument panel lights ,cigar lighter if that works your good....

tranny ,test drive it .....turn off radio,a/c,and roll down the windows and listen for noise, chatter whatnot.......
my favorite years was 1986-87 (i'll buy another oneday):D
 
I'm really interested in a no B.S. vehicle that I don't have to baby for fear of breaking it like the crap they are making today that you pay top dollar for. I'd go for a pre-1980 Jeep Wrangler but with the Wifey, Son and I, once you put some gear in the thing, you need a damned military trailer which would be great except I have nowhere to store that. :D
 
Don, I'm pretty much in the same boat-getting 2 years worth of backpay for VA medical benefits and trying to find a decently priced inexpensive vehicle that I can put lots of miles on, on mountain roads without having to worry about anything. Just so happens I come across this article too. I can't find any on craigslist though... They say the wrangler wheelbase is too close together for running canyon roads in the winter-they slip and slide all over the place-otherwise a soft top would be my first choice.
 
What do they suggest if not the Wrangler? I mean, for just a bust-balls go-getter, they are hard to beat.
 
Until there's 6 feet of packed snow built up on Highway 55, (above the guard rail, in the few places there are) and as the road wears the surface rounds off into the 500 foot drop into the North Fork of the Payette River on one side and a basalt cliff face on the other... I guess the wheels just aren't far enough apart to get good traction on the switchbacks. Subaru Outbacks, Forresters, Toyota Rav4s and LandCruisers, Audis and F250's are extremely popular. Nissan Pathfinders as well. I'd say 50% of the personal vehicles you see on Highway 55 in the winter are Subaru Outbacks. I see alot of Isuzu Troopers as well, but I hear those are prone to rolling-otherwise a great vehicle.
 
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Yeah, the Troopers look more top heavy than the Xterra. :)

Pretty cool about the Outbacks though. I wonder how a 90s vintage Outback would fare on the used market.
 
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