Interesting knife find

averageguy said:
This is a very elitest forum.
I don't think it's elitist to recognize the difference between a poorly made, easily broken knife and an excellent knife made of great materials and designed to take hard use. If you can't afford a good knife, fine - use what you can afford. To make fun of a guy who can only afford a $5.00 Fury folder would be elitist, and I don't see that happening here. But for $45 I think even you can agree that you can get more from a Spyderco than a Fury.
 
TorzJohnson said:
But for $45 I think even you can agree that you can get more from a Spyderco than a Fury.
Or a benchmade, or a kershaw, or a Buck, or a Gerber, or a SOG, or a Camillus, or a HI, and the list just keeps going. ;)
A knife that is really tough that easily fits in that price range is a Ka-Bar. Be careful that you get the real thing from a good dealer (we can recommend lots of them) because there are quite a few clones out there.
 
I don't think a forum can be called "eliteist", that recommends Opinels left and right. There are quite a few knives out there that don't cost a fortune, that find frequent recognition on this forum:
Opinel
various SAKs
the Ka-Ba Doziers
Byrds
just to name the most obvious. All of which can be had for <$20.
 
HoB said:
I don't think a forum can be called "eliteist", that recommends Opinels left and right. There are quite a few knives out there that don't cost a fortune, that find frequent recognition on this forum:
Opinel
various SAKs
the Ka-Ba Doziers
Byrds
just to name the most obvious. All of which can be had for <$20.

Dont forget the almighty moras! :thumbup:
 
"I don't think a forum can be called "eliteist", that recommends Opinels left and right. There are quite a few knives out there that don't cost a fortune, that find frequent recognition on this forum:
Opinel
various SAKs
the Ka-Ba Doziers
Byrds
just to name the most obvious. All of which can be had for <$20."


That's my point isn't it. Unless a knife has gained some type of recognition on this forum it's not worth having.
 
I must admit to having a Fury knife myself. Someone gave it to me. I think it was one of those deals, buy 50 knives for $20 or similar. This guy at work was handing them out like candy. It's a small plastic liner-lock folder. You guessed it, the liner is paper-thin and doesn't engage. (my bad, this knife is actually a Frost Cutlery, same thing though)

Perhaps someone could recommend a boot knife for Ars in the $40 range that would be a better buy than the Fury. I don't follow boot knives myself...

-Bob
 
I too bought a Fury one year, when I was on vacation at the beach! Then I came here (BF's) and this basic membership has cost me somewhere in the thousands-of-dollars!!!! I would'nt trade this experience for anything! I have learned so much about my passion (knives) from these guys and gals on Blade Forums. Hang in here and let us know when you've spent your first five hundred!! *Welcome to the Forums!* Walter
 
averageguy said:
That's my point isn't it. Unless a knife has gained some type of recognition on this forum it's not worth having.

You have it exactly backwards. Knives gain "some type of recognition" through positive experience. Do you expect "non-elitist" people to recommend hardware they have no experience with? Or hardware that has a bad reputation?

With respect, it looks like you're fishing for a scandal that isn't there. ;)
 
What I expect is for someone who visits us, who on his first post proudly tells us of his new knife, isn't told it's a POS.
He wasn't asking for a recommendation he was asking for an opinion and he got plenty of that.
That knife appears to be about a 10 year old model made in Japan, these I believe were often marked 440 or 440A.
Shortly after that Fury was marketing a variety of Muela knives.
Their current lineup appears to include many low priced offerings made in China.
United, well that's a whole other story - but they market knives from around the world, quite a range of quality and prices.
So, he's told his knife is a POS and provided eroneous information by a group of individuals who believe they have all the answers. I chose the word elitest but other words come to mind.
 
I had a Fury lockback handle split in 2, think I was cutting cable ties when it did. I now have one other Fury in a 'disposable drawpoint package' from www.shawnstactical.com Came with a great kydex sheath w/j-hook. Being a Fury, the knife is lousy in the realm of materials for true using blades, but it was only $20 and feels ok in the hand.
 
My first khukuri was an Indian tourist model that turned out to be dead soft. :(

At about that time, I bought a Fury from a mail order house. It was supposed to be a lock back - a simple lock that is not overly challenging to execute (I now know), compared to some other locks. It would not lock. :eek: :( :mad: Then the handle fell off. :rolleyes:

All brands eventully get recognition here -- some recognized as pretty consistently good -- some recognized as pretty consistently bad -- and things between.

There are differences of opinion -- some violently so.

BF, as a whole, is the furthest place from elitism one can find, with fans of $10 knives and fans of $3000+ knives (some said to have spiritual power).

We have members who are friendly and unfriendly, reasonable, and unreasonable, cranky as hell and calm as still water. Some are knowledgable and some are not. Stay and you will decide which is which -- for you.

A sincere welcome.
 
We have members who are friendly and unfriendly, reasonable, and unreasonable, cranky as hell and calm as still water. Some are knowledgable and some are not. Stay and you will decide which is which -- for you.

A sincere welcome.

Well said!
While your new knife might not be top of the line, it looks plenty 'stabby' to me.
Keep it. Hang it on your wall. Use it (responsibly, of course) and learn from it.
They'll be other knives.
Take a look here for some affordable, albeit more traditional, knives that do work for a living.
Maybe some day, when your collection grows, someone will admire it and you'll sell it to them for a penny (old superstition/tradition: never gift a knife). They will be thrilled and you won't miss it by then.
 
Is it the knife dealer that has a shop on 12th ave in Seaside, OR? I noticed Seside in your post. He's strictly a fantasy dealer and even showed up at the gun show there. Lot's of teens and goths are his customers. Maybe Klingons too!
 
Thomas Linton said:
with fans of $10 knives and fans of $3000+ knives (some said to have spiritual power).
Be careful. You are not worthy of mentioning HIS name. You must attain +18 of MooShooChopLoMain Spritual and Physical Prowess to understand what a knife such as his can really do. It can outcut anything. I saw him go through 89 tatami in just one swoosh. That blows the old record AWAY!!!!
(man, I love this place)
 
(old superstition/tradition: never gift a knife).
Huh? Never heard of this before
The idea is that if you give someone a knife, you're symbolically severing the friendship. So even if you intend the knife to be a gift, you should ask for a penny in exchange. That way the knife is technically sold, not given away.

I give knives as gifts all the time. Probably why I have no friends.

-Bob
 
Bob W said:
I give knives as gifts all the time. Probably why I have no friends.
Bob, I really hope you are joking. As kind and generous as you are, you deserve friends. Good friends. Live Long and Prosper.
 
Actually, I only give knives to my in-laws. :)

I think the superstition is exactly that, a superstition. They're still my in-laws, even after dozens of gift knives.

Best Wishes,
Bob
 
Averageguy, my comment was directed at your statement that Fury branded knives were made in Japan and Spain. Once upon a time this was true. Today most Fury knives are junk. That is not elitist, it is the truth. This knife of Ars_Stolam's may well be a decent knife, I have no idea. I have never handled or used this particular knife, so I have no idea if it is good or not. The fact remains that every Fury knife that I have had the opportunity to handle has been at best average and much more frequently they have been poor to very quality. That includes some of their more expensive knives.
 
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