Interesting Video - Average User?

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I wasn't sure what to title this thread and I debated about putting it in MT&E but I think there's more to observe than just the sharpening demonstration presented.

Let me first say, in no way am I criticizing or trying to demean this gentleman. This video popped up in my "Recommended" section on YouTube and being a sharpening buff I gave it a click.

As I watched it I was at once anxious yet entertained. I recoiled at his techniques but applauded his ability to see the knife as a working tool. And I respect his desire to inform others who will be of a like mindset.

His approach is just so shockingly bizarre to me these days after spending so many years being so careful about my strokes and delving into the world of different stones for different steels and results and just sort of studying and pondering sharpening. But it reminded me that so much of that is just 'cuz. I'm surely not advocating his approach but it does somehow give some perspective.

This is a guy who clearly uses his knife and respects the job it can do enough to want to keep it sharp. Or at least sharp enough for him. Now, you can debate how long the edge will last or wear on the knife and so on, but still, I think this gentleman is much more the rule and most of us around here are the exceptions. :) In fact, he might be above average in the sense that he actually sharpens his knife.

A few days ago someone posted a thread lamenting Kershaw's use of low-end steels. Some of us countered that there is definitely a market for it.

Exhibit A:

 
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While his methods aren't going to produce even, mirror bevels, they will give him a sharp knife. If you always lean towards a higher angle, you'll apex faster. You won't be maintaining a certain DPS or have even, pretty bevels but you will apex and get the knife sharp. This is the technique primitive and third world people use who rely on blades much more than the average bladeforums user. If you look at their blades, they never have even bevels, they are just sharpened to complete a task and are usually done so in the fastest manner possible.
 
I'm no expert but that technique needs a little work.

My interpretation of that video and a general statement to sum it up .
A good combo stone will put a serviceable edge (usable for the more common everyday tasks) on *most* knives.

I don't know if that stone would have trouble with the newer, higher end metals. I'm guessing it would.
 
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His technique is a bit sloppy, but, beyond that, it's a perfectly normal way to sharpen a knife, and it has been done that way forever.

If one wants to sit around all day being anal retentive edge snobs, whittling hair, and looking at themselves in their mirror polished edges...nothing wrong with that. It's what we do.

But we are the vast, vast, vast minority of knife users. This guy, using a decent oilstone is probably just in the vast minority of knife users.
 
It's funny, and says something about all us us, including me, that we are running around with our hundreds spent on diamond plates and Japanese water stones claiming we can hand hold a consistent 17.5 degree angle...and here's this guy spending 20-30 bucks on a historically-proven Norton India Oilstone, getting a nice edge with a burr...and he's the goofball. :D
 
It's funny, and says something about all us us, including me, that we are running around with our hundreds spent on diamond plates and Japanese water stones claiming we can hand hold a consistent 17.5 degree angle...and here's this guy spending 20-30 bucks on a historically-proven Norton India Oilstone, getting a nice edge with a burr...and he's the goofball. :D
Exactly. Not sharp knife is now sharp. Mission accomplished.
 
This one might be better
That video is by Cliff Stamp; he was banned from here for good reason. Be careful taking his advice, even if it sounds logical, it may be incorrect. He wraps up a lot of crap in psuedo science but it's still crap.
 
That video is by Cliff Stamp; he was banned from here for good reason. Be careful taking his advice, even if it sounds logical, it may be incorrect. He wraps up a lot of crap in psuedo science but it's still crap.
LOL yea okay. If you know much about sharpening, you'd know the vid is just fine among many of the other topics.

Here's why he was banned. http://www.cliffstamp.com/knives/forum/read.php?4,4489,21762

He was a bit of a trouble maker but being banned from bladeforums like he was doesn't mean he's factually wrong at all.
 
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Other than being a bit sloppy and I would never use a wire brush on a knife, I have not particular problem with his sharpening effort.

I have the Norton India Stone (just like his) and I use it for the lesser hardness steels to produce a passably sharp knife.
 
That video is by Cliff Stamp; he was banned from here for good reason. Be careful taking his advice, even if it sounds logical, it may be incorrect. He wraps up a lot of crap in psuedo science but it's still crap.
Cliff did good science on blade geometry and edges, and he's still doing it over at another forum. He wasn't banned here for bad science, he was banned for bad manners.
 
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