Intoduction and an Interesting Technique from Japan

SirSpice

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Hey Guys,

I've been lurking for a good many years on Blade Forums, getting a lot of great information that has really helped me in my knife making hobby. I thought I might contribute some interesting pictures I took on a recent trip to Seki, Japan. We got a tour of several knife factories by a very nice knife exporter named Jemmi Iwahara. One of the places we visited was Kiku Matsuda's shop.

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Kiku uses an interesting grinding technique which utilizes a disk sander on a mandrel. It looks like an aluminum disk with a hole in the center that is mounted like a bench stone, but uses abrasive sheets:

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The bevels are ground in flat sections and then blended together:

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Here you can see one of his employees beveling a knife, notice how the disk spins upwards:

[video=youtube;WkztVNtoWGs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkztVNtoWGs[/video]

I asked him and our guide why he uses such an unusual technique and they told us that it allows him to feel and hear the grind on the disk. I would normally chalk this up to necessity being the mother of invention, but he does have some """decent""" 2x72 grinders as well:

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Yeah, I'm jealous. I thought I was hot stuff when I got my KMG. I know some of the people around here use the nine inch disk sanders with the variable speed motors, like the Beaumont or Tru-Grit. I wonder if this technique would work on those.

I also liked his high tech Kydex station:

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I took a lot of pictures of knives at different stages of production:

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Kiku told us about the All Nippon Knife show that was happening in Kobe a few days later, so we went to it. It was fairly small, but had a lot of interesting stuff.

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They had bars of ZDP-189 and ZDP-189 clad in VG-10. I would have bought some, but it seemed kind of ridiculous to carry a bar of steel I couldn't heat treat across the ocean.

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One knifemaker made knives made out of glass.

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A table of natural waterstones. Pretty affordable too.

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Bought some anyway. Where else would I get the chance?

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I took a break from making knives for a couple of months and this trip really got me back in the groove. Overall, I thought the contrast and similarities between knife making in the US and Japan was very interesting.
 
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SirSpice , thanks for reportage :thumbup: Can you please fix video , does not work ?
.I m disk sander man and I want to see Japan way of grinding on disk sander :)
 
The video link should be fixed now, but I'm going to re-upload it in better quality.
 
Great intro post SirSpice!
Interesting use of a disk grinder. Seems like they would constantly be changing sheets, but seems to work out for them.

That knife show looks like a dream to me. You don't see many kitchen knives at the few shows I've been to in the U.S.
 
Interesting use of a disk grinder. Seems like they would constantly be changing sheets, but seems to work out for them.

I think they might be doing some of the heavier grinding on the sides of bench stones, judging by what's in the shop. They also had several of the disks. They do everything in batches, so they don't change to a different grit that often.

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That knife show looks like a dream to me. You don't see many kitchen knives at the few shows I've been to in the U.S.

They didn't have a lot of kitchen knife makers at the show, but relative to the size of the event (small) it was more then the Blade Show. I bought a Mr Itou R2 Damascus Petty with an Ironwood handle for a bargain of a price. I forgot to take a picture of his table though. Here is another table:

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Later in the trip, we went to Sennichimae Doguyasuji street in Osaka, which has dozens of restaurant supply stores. They had TONS of kitchen knives there. Mostly production knives though.

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Really interesting report and pics, Kiku is one of the masters of the grind, no question, and I doubt I will ever be able to go to Japan. Do you know if the blanks being ground in the video were already heat treated?


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I'm not sure. I do know he sends them out to be heat treated. One of the things that surprised me after going through several knife factories was the scarcity of 2x72 grinders. In fact, I think Kiku's TW-90s were some of the only ones I saw. There were plenty of other sizes though, and most were mounted on a belt driven mandrel.

Here you can see Mr. Hattori working on a batch of Fallkniven knives:
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And here is a sword polisher working on a katana's habaki:
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