Introducing...the new Spyderco Perfecta?

THG said:
Exactly... Plus, I don't think we need 3 of the same model knife in 1/4" increments.
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Yeah, I was wondering how that will look when you balance tooling cost, etc. against expected sales. Even if you're selling cutlery, there's a limit to how finely you can slice a market??? ;)
 
3.5" Leaf shape FFG Caly4 will be my Perfecta
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sal said:
Some thoughts to share.

The Caly is a very narrow (top to bottom) gentleman's model. It is this narrow pattern that is much of the appeal to the design. Keeping it narrow has certain requirements;

1. Not enough room for screw construction other than for the pivot.
2. Not enough room for a deep finger choil.

We can make the model wider, but that's why we have the Sage series. Wider than the Caly, but narrower than the Native.

We do have a design for a 3.5" blade Caly (89mm). (It really wouldn't be a "4" because it is a different blade size). Longer than the Caly, but shorter than the full sized Calypso.

We have jimping on both the spine and finger choil, with the sharp corner in front of the jimping rounded. Full flat round VG-10.

One of the major set-backs is the cost. Sales are slow, I believe, on the Caly3 because of the high cost. The maker is expensive, but has excellent quality. The scalesa re machined inthe US and shipped to Seki-City. Combined with the fact that the Yen is now consideraly stronger than the dollar, with no reduction in sight.

A new model, made like the Caly3, but larger, will also be expensive, so brisk sales are not likely. Whether or not we can do it will depend on the maker's ability to cooperate.

We've not decided on handle material. The least expensive is usually aluminum. Even anodized, it's not a highly regarded material for many.

My peference is for the Caly3 constuction with full skeltonized liners and a thin scale for traction and appearance. This also provides a good platform for aftermarket customizing. I'd love to do something like ironwood, but it's not an economy solution.

We're hoping to have a prototype to show at the Shot Show.

Hi Paul,

I agree that full width spines are comfortable from top pressure, I also agree that the point on the tip of the spine above the hole should be softened.

The sharp corner of the full width spine does "scrape" the side of matererial being cut though, which is less efficient. A chamfer or bevel reduces the friction, but creates a less comfortable pad for the finger on the spine.

I've thought about a small radius on the sharp corner of the spine. Difficult to do, but it may be the best compromise. :confused:

sal
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The perfect spyderco for me would be an Endura with a modified choil, like what they put on the Police3, so that space is more comfortably useful
 
elkins45 said:
Not to pick nits, but that would be 1/2" increments, not 1/4".
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Oh, right; the D4 is 2 and 7/8... So that would be 5/8" increment from the D4 and then 1/4" increment to the Endura (E4 is 3.75, last I checked.)
 
I would submit that the new Stretch should serve those interested in a model betwen the Endura and the Delica.

A 3.5" Caly would be made the same way as the current Caly. Adjustable pivot and pinned handle.

sal
 
Sal Glesser said:
I would submit that the new Stretch should serve those interested in a model betwen the Endura and the Delica.

A 3.5" Caly would be made the same way as the current Caly. Adjustable pivot and pinned handle.

sal
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And that's that, boyzzz, case closed. :p
The Stretch,is by far, the most versatile comfortable knife I own.
 
Sal Glesser said:
I would submit that the new Stretch should serve those interested in a model betwen the Endura and the Delica.

A 3.5" Caly would be made the same way as the current Caly. Adjustable pivot and pinned handle.

sal
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Sal, any chance of us seeing a Stretch with a blade shape more like the Calypso Jr/ Caly 3? Have heard at least a few folks say they're not fond of the "hunter" blade shape and they'd prefer one that way. Me, I'd rather see you build one at the other extreme, with a blade like Gary Graley's customized one and the PE blade of the Dyads. :o:D

Paul
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Hi Paul,

I never say never. ;)

At this time, it's not in the project list.

We do have a Superhawk-leaf being prototyped. (Superleaf :confused:?)

sal
 
The Deacon said:
Sal, any chance of us seeing a Stretch with a blade shape more like the Caly 3? Have heard at least a few folks say they're not fond of the "hunter" blade shape and they'd prefer one that way.

Paul
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Great idea Paul. I am one of these people. This sound like a winner.:thumbup:
I really never cared about screw construction. During 3+ years of use Caly3, I never felt that I need to take this knife apart. But if this going to be a deal breaker for many people, than why not? Also, in case of FRN variant, the same mold can be used.
I am wondering what kind of liners on Stretch:regular or nested?
I really want this Caly4: black G10, 3.5" FFG blade, the same width as on Caly3. No swedge on the spine or at absolute minimum, like a .003/.005" break edge. Low riding wire clip. :p
 
Sal Glesser said:
Hi Paul,

I never say never. ;)

At this time, it's not in the project list.

We do have a Superhawk-leaf being prototyped. (Superleaf :confused:?)

sal
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Superleaf :p. Thing are getting more and more interesting. Compression lock? Nice. No CF, please, if it is possible.
 
Sal Glesser said:
I would submit that the new Stretch should serve those interested in a model betwen the Endura and the Delica.

A 3.5" Caly would be made the same way as the current Caly. Adjustable pivot and pinned handle.

sal
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Everywhere I look the new FRN Stretch is quite a bit more expensive than even the bigger Endura. Maybe that's just because it's new?
 
Sal Glesser said:
Hi Paul,

I never say never. ;)

At this time, it's not in the project list.

We do have a Superhawk-leaf being prototyped. (Superleaf :confused:?)

sal
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Thanks Sal. As for the SuperLeaf, wrong handed for me, but it sounds like great news for the right handed.

Paul
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Sal Glesser said:
Hi Paul,

I never say never. ;)

At this time, it's not in the project list.

We do have a Superhawk-leaf being prototyped. (Superleaf :confused:?)

sal
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The Superleaf sounds like a great knife. I've tried to persuade myself to buy a Superhawk but never quite got there. With a leaf-type blade, I'd be there tomorrow! :thumbup:
 
elkins45 said:
Everywhere I look the new FRN Stretch is quite a bit more expensive than even the bigger Endura. Maybe that's just because it's new?
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Could be, the differences between the E4 and the SFRN are the much thinner blade, and the full flat grind. Both these could account for the cost difference, as well as the fact that the E4/D4 may be geared towards a different user set.
 
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