Iran Threatens U.S. With 'Harm and Pain'

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We are pitching pennies with these idiots. When will they get a bomb. Who do they hate more, us or Israel? It has been stated in the polar bear thread that the best defence is a slower friend. Are we serving up Israel on a platter to save our own asses?:eek: This is a BIG deal. What is your opinion?

ps. I hate getting threatened.:thumbdn: :grumpy: :mad:
 
Israel could wipe out Iran with one hand tied behind their back. Iran knows it too. That's why they pay the Palestinians to do their dirty work.

The best thing we can do is spend the money we would use to attack them to establish alternative energy sources and promote conservation at home and tell the whole region to f off.:thumbup: :D

If the Palestians and Israelis can work out some sort of deal (doubtful but not impossible) and we have no strategic interests in the mid east anymore the countries that are causing us trouble will go back to killing each other and we won't have to worry about them.

"No need to worry the jury, they'll probably take care of themselves" - Robert Hunter
 
Israel will go it's own way, and Iran, Syria and the rest of the region should know that by now. Iran is better suited to target the US than Israel, they will retaliate with any and all things in there arsenal. We will be pulled into any full blown action involving the Jewish state, Iran want Nuculear weapons because thats the only way they can defeat the Jews.
Armegeddon is supposed start in that part of the world, is it?

Dick

I'm with you, I hate being threatened, but N. Korea has been doing it for a couple of years now.
 
HD is right! Let's work on alternate fuel sources, and let the entire region eat sand and drink oil.

Dick
 
hollowdweller said:
Israel could wipe out Iran with one hand tied behind their back. Iran knows it too. That's why they pay the Palestinians to do their dirty work.

The best thing we can do is spend the money we would use to attack them to establish alternative energy sources and promote conservation at home and tell the whole region to f off.:thumbup: :D

If the Palestians and Israelis can work out some sort of deal (doubtful but not impossible) and we have no strategic interests in the mid east anymore the countries that are causing us trouble will go back to killing each other and we won't have to worry about them.

"No need to worry the jury, they'll probably take care of themselves" - Robert Hunter
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I agree with everything you've said here.:thumbup: I still see Iran as a threat though, and they worry me. I don't think they'd hit Israel personally. I think they'd hit us. I would love to tell them they can keep their oil though. How's the sand market? I bet it isn't trading at $60 per barrel!:D

Edited to add: If we do attack, I hope we do it for OIL. I'd love to see the faces on the media as we pump the country dry and leave it for the buzzards.
 
I can,t agree more about the alternative energy sources . Aside from big businesses need to make a profit from our needs I think the blinders are off . I think that they can see the dark at the end of the tunnel . Not that there isn,t a way to profit from misery I do think that there is a general loosening up of access to alternative sources .

While I am not a fan of isolationism I do think if we took two giant steps backwards and let them stew in their own fervorous juices for awhile then the animosity would die down right quick . Right about the same time their bank accounts started to dry up . They,ve been selling religious fanaticism for so long to their own people .Let them try and make a profit from that !
 
I'm not an economy guy, nor do i know squat about the region. However, IIRC, oil is not just something we use to drive our cars along. We want to control oil producing regions not because we need all their oil. We do, but that's not why this area is in our best intrest. We have basically negotiated and muscled the U.S. dollar as the standard at which oil is bought and sold. I don't know how it works, but it behooves our economy to have oil traded in USD.

However, I don't like this Iran thing one bit. Unlike NK, Iran has something worth a damn to the rest of the world. Communism basically does not work unless the area is HUGE like China. Even then it's kind of a shaky deal. NK could be starved out pretty easily to the point where it would be no threat to us. However, a million men could flood into SK pretty quick, and Japan is within striking distance or close to it.

World politics gives me a headache, a stomach ache, and makes me bite my nails. I wish we could just say, "let them eat figs" and wall off our quarter of the globe, but that's just not possible anymore.

Jake
 
Iran Threatens U.S. With 'Harm and Pain'

I don't take threats litely. If harm and pain is the name of the game then lets give them as much harm and pain as we can inflict.

n2s
 
I'd rather take their "figs" and wall off their quarter of the globe.:cool:
 
I've been trying to photosynthesis but despite my near vegitative state cannot add to this energy discussion.




munk
 
aproy1101 said:
I agree with everything you've said here.:thumbup: I still see Iran as a threat though, and they worry me. I don't think they'd hit Israel personally. I think they'd hit us. I would love to tell them they can keep their oil though. How's the sand market? I bet it isn't trading at $60 per barrel!:D
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OK,

So remind me why we would preemptively attack Iran for having a nuclear weapons program and not North Korea who says they have the actual bombs?

And then remind me why we wouldn't detain AQ Khan the Pakastani scientist who provided both North Korea AND Iran with their nuclear technology?? And then explain why President Bush went to Pakistan recently and shook hands and praised the president, who pardoned AQ Khan for giving the technology away?? Oh that's right he's helping us find Bin Laden. Right;)

And then Bush goes to India and signs a deal with them to sell them nuclear technology even though they refused to sign the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty that he is beating up on other nations for not signing onto??


And yet we woud attack IRAQ? Who had nuclear inspectors in the country who could find no evidence of a nuclear program at the same time as N. Korea was actually building bombs?

One thing is for sure. If I was the president of any middle eastern country that the US has criticized, after Iraq I would be trying to get a bomb. Because if you do we'll leave you alone.

The whole policy of the Bush administration toward terror and nuclear arms is so contradictory and inconsistant that it's no wonder everything is such a mess!:p
 
hollowdweller said:
So remind me why we would preemptively attack Iran for having a nuclear weapons program and not North Korea who says they have the actual bombs?
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Iran is a real threat to us whereas NC is only a sword rattling fool. Also NC is surrounded by countries allied to us who: would take the brunt of any action by NC because of simple geography, and would aid us in crushing them because of world politics and money. And finally because NC can barely feed themselves.

We've never had that scientis in custody IIRC and have no jurisdiction to detain him. The President of Pakistan is free to pardon whom he pleases just as Bill Clinton was at the end of his term. The rest of the answers to your post is politics. Look, I'm not a Bush apologist. I don't agree with everything he says and does. He isn't my favorite president. (If you're wondering its Reagan) The situation in the middle east is sticky. You're right, as I said, we have to get off of the oil and give them a big eff u. But Iran is a real threat. They intend to target us economically if there are sanctions even though the rest of the world has played a part. They hate us. They have a holiday to commemorate the hostage crisis.
 
Andy's on to something, Hollow; not everyone holding a atomic bomb is the same.

Iran must be intervened in some manner.





munk
 
munk said:
Andy's on to something, Hollow; not everyone holding a atomic bomb is the same.

Iran must be intervened in some manner.
munk
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I DO love to hear all the people committing troops and attacks that won't actually have to do it.



I'm still more worried about the ones in Pakistan and N Korea than Iran.

On a bright note if everybody has one then maybe there will be world peace cause everybody will be afraid to attack each other.
 
munk said:
I've been trying to photosynthesis but despite my near vegitative state cannot add to this energy discussion.

munk
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I don,t have photo-synthesis down either but I can mold up pretty good !
In fact you don,t even need sunlight for it ! L:O:L

On the serious side ? We have wave action ,tidal action , wind , gravity and solar . Some despicable creature even stole my idea and is using the difference in temperatures at sea level and altitude to produce massive amounts of heat to run whatever ya want .

It is not just what we can produce but our ways of running things more efficiently . An L:E:D: flashlight will run for days on what an incandescent would burn up in a days work . We are tied up by our own ideas of what must be instead of what can be .One day we will harness the stars . That,ll last us a lot longer than the time it,ll take for us to think of something better .

(Uh oh here they come with my meds ! ) ( No ,no please ! Not the cold water lavage ? please no anything but that ! ) L:O:L
 
It would have left Kuwait littered with the bodies of US servicemen. Didn't quite pan out that way when all was said and done.
I don't view Iran as a serious threat. With a Nuke they could really stir things ups, but they just don't have enough capability to be a serious threat. If they try and use it they will doom millions of their own citizens and open themselves up to UN policing for a generation or more.
 
hollowdweller said:
North Carolina? Yeah they are b*stards!:D ;)
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LOL. Where the hell did I get NC? ;) :D

Are you saying I would not have fought for this country in turn? Or, are you saying that I take military action against another nation litely? Or, can you please see that I am worried about Iran sending an atom bomb to the USA?

Pakistan is a dangerous place for bombs to be, but they aren't threatening us. Neither is India. AND they are locked in an arms race themselves and need their bombs to offset one another.

Also, I think the best plan (If I could plan it) for Iran is to destroy their nuclear capabilities with an attack on their nuclear facilities. Then leave them to rattle away helplessly. ("Oh alla bla lalla jihada fundada!" LOL) We simply, IMHO don't have available troops to commit to taking over that nation. Still, we can't let them have a bomb.
 
One thing is for sure. If I was the president of any middle eastern country that the US has criticized, after Iraq I would be trying to get a bomb. Because if you do we'll leave you alone>>>> Hollowdweller

You believe this? Interesting.

<<<<I DO love to hear all the people committing troops and attacks that won't actually have to do it.>>>> Hollowdweller

I wouldn't love hearing that. It would be an exercise of anger or hate. Further, the insinuated conclusion is wrong. These kind of thought processes are a waste of time. They're like, angry traps to catch angry people.

What is really going on?

Our Earth is changing, and there are belief systems and hardware that might destroy us all if we are not very carefull, or very good, or just get lucky, or Pray.

I'm hoping Iran's middle class assumes gradual control of their country and the strident madmen will fall by the wayside.


munk
 
aproy1101 said:
LOL. Where the hell did I get NC? ;) :D
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About half the manufacturing here moved to North Carolina in the late 70's. I say we hit Raleigh and then Charlotte. If we can bomb the NASCAR facilities when they are full we will take out everyone with an IQ below 70;)

Then we can use the whole state as a mutant gamecock breeding facility:thumbup:

Oh yea and we can arrest Jesse Helms and put him on trial for treason.:thumbup:
 
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