Irishwolf91 won't return my El Patron update

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Hey guys,

I have been having an issue with one of the guys on the site. Irishwolf91 and myself agreed on a trade. My El Patron for his Model 4 and an old Sebenza. I got a text from saying he was shipping so I shipped my end. Thats when it all went to hell. 3 days later I contact him and he tells me he was in Jail and all his knives were stolen so he couldn't ship. Its now over a week later and after many text messages where he basiclly calls me a jerk because I won't take payment for the knife. I will find a way to load all the messages he sent me. He now won't take my calls and I am guessing he blocked my number. He says he dent have money to pay me but it looks like he made a deal just yesterday here on the forum. All I want is for him to do the right thing and return it. Please reach out to this guys and ask him to do the right thing. Be careful if your dealing with this guy.



James Roycroft
Virginia Beach, VA

If anyone is working with this guy watch your back.


Heres just a sample of the text messages he has sent me. the first two are from him and the 3rd is from me.

IRISHWOLF91
Yeah that's cool dude. No worries. I understand you're worried. I've had hundreds of well known people in the knife community let me make payments and I've never screwed anyone ever! You can check my feedback on BF. But if you'd rather have the knife back instead on some money that's find

IRISHWOLF91
It hasn't been in my pocket, I've kept it in the tube in my work truck. I have been working in SMITHFIELD Virginia since 630 a.m. and no the usps has not been open here, i can't just tell my boss to go fuck himself because you want to be an impatient self centered prick who doesn't give a damn about anyone else's problems but your own. And I've had literally hundreds of deals on bf and eBay and every single one has gone smooth. Not everyone leaves feedback, i don't give a fuck if you believe me i know what's true. I have a lot more shit going on than you can fathom, so no it's not that easy to just go to the usps and ship it. You don't understand what my job entails, i don't even have time to take lunch breaks. I do 6 to 8 jobs a day. And my boss is a bigger prick than you are. And a decent person would be willing to work with a fellow knife enthusiast, especially if it isn't going to affect you in anyway, in fact it would benefit you. I mean you have like 4 el patrons and I'm sure an assload of other knives, and you know that i just lost my entire collection. I just don't understand why you can't work with me on it since it isn't going to hurt you in any way. I mean would it kill you to do something nice for once in your life? I try to help people every opportunity i get because i would want someone to do the same for me. We all are Human beings and we all have suffering, if i can alleviate another person's in the least bit i will. But i get it, you're a perfect person who never needs help and who is only concerned with yourself. Self-indulgent hateful people like you are the reason for the current state of the world. It's ok though, i hope that someday when you need help someone will be more compassionate than you. Btw I'm still fucking working dude, my job isn't a simple 9-5.

ME
If you wanted to send it back you would have already done it. What does it matter what I have or don't have. And how in the hell can you say that this doesn't affect me. You have my 500 dollar knife and I have jack shit. The fact that you find excuse after excuse to try and force me to take payments shows it all to me. You sound like a democrat. You have to much so I'm going to take some and make it fair. You don't have a clue what I do to afford my knives. But because I've saved up and built a good collection I have to much and I have to give it away. I have asked you many times to send it back and you have told me many times that you would. But it's allows this or that and I still am out my 500 knife and you have it and it cost you nothing. Can you just send the damn knife back. No excuses just make the time like anyone else would have done by now and ship it and don't tell me that it's basically going to be lost in the mail. I don't want payments. You don't have a right to force me into taking payments. We had a deal and you couldn't honor it so you need to send it back. If the roles were reversed i would have already had your knife back to you. That's the fact

Update 12/21/2015
I just emailed with another member ZaneFSU and he told me some interesting news. Irishwolf91 is now on the forum trying to trade my El Patron to other members. He is telling guys that he has paid me 250.00 which is a joke. Keep an eye out for IRISHWOLF91

I text him the link to this page and he still hasn't grown the balls to try and sell his BS story here. A 2-bit thief


Update 12/21/2015
My brother in law is in the FBI and lives in the same city as James. I asked him what I should do and he said I needed to call the VB police and file a report. I filed it and then informed James of what I did. He told me he was going to call the police on me for threatening him.
He just text me a picture of a receipt from the USPS so we will see if its real or not. he also said he was going to send me a video of him packing the knife up to prove it. I It said expected delivery date 12/26. Ill update when or if the package arrives.
Im just glad I got a hold of ZaneFSU before they made the trade because it would be almost impossible at that point for any of this to work out.


Update 12/25/15
Knife is returned and all is right in the universe. Thanks BF for making this happen
 
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When you start these threads, you need to send a link to the other person. Let them know your intentions before you get the train rolling on the tracks.
 
I tried to contact him on the forum but he doesn't have a contact here. I text him the link so he could respond my guess is he won't
 
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I will be pressing charges for harassment and defamation of character, i have all the texts, threatening voicemails and this public slandering which will be used as evidence. It would've been different if he had proof other than his assumptions that i was going to take his knife without paying, but he didn't. I had every intention to pay every cent, this was unwarranted and wrong. He should've waited to find out if i was going to screw him over before making this thread and leaving me multiple voicemails calling me names like a child and threatening me. My brother is a lawyer, Tom C. Little, you will be hearing from him. I've dealt with multiple people in the knife community, don't let my 3 feedback fool you, i can provide the names of several well known members in the community to speak on my behalf regarding several deals that have gone through smoothly and that I've paid every cent.
 
I just had a car accident, why don't you give me your car because have three. If you don't, I'm going to call my crooked brother-in-law because he's a lawyer and I'm going to sue you because you made me cry. Oh wait, he died a few years ago... thank god.
 
But he didn't ask you to pay. He asked you to send his knife back after you couldn't live up to your end of the deal. Why are you so hell bent on buying his knife? He wanted a trade. That couldn't work out so now he doesn't want to deal anymore. Be a man and send his knife back.

OP, if this guy actually sues you, let me know and I'll contribute to your defense fund. My guess it's empty threats and promises just like the "deal" you guys made. Don't let him intimidate you.
 
sue, lol. press charges against this dude for mail fraud. he is obviously a criminal since he was in jail. his knives stolen? probably pawned. just another lying blow-hard junkbox ripping good people off.
 
I would have to agree with others. The terms of the deal were a trade, not payments. One side of the deal was not honored so the knife should be sent back. No questions. No whining about personal situations - it doesn't matter what either party's situation is. The only thing that matters is the knife gets sent back pronto. At least that's how I see it.
 
Seems pretty simple... He mails the unused knife back and everything is fine or he doesn't and he is a thief.
 
I feel like I am a pretty level headed guy, but if I had some crazy stranger try to force me into taking $9.95/month payments or whatever, I would definitely go zero to 300 immediately. Man I hope you get your knife back, and not some Gerber paraframe.
 
Irishwolf91 needs to send the knife back, period. He did not live up to his end of the deal which was a trade, not a purchase. Shootman31 owes you nothing, you owe him his knife back. What makes you feel entitled to make your own rules, and tell someone you will make payments on a knife that's not yours? What a bunch of BS!
 
The knife is in the mail and I've posted a video of me boxing it up to YouTube because my phone won't send the vid due to length. I really don't give a fuck what you ass clowns think, none of you know the details of the deal, or the extent of how this prick handled the situation. I was originally going to purchase the knife for 500 before the trade fell through. None of you morons know anything about my life and who i am as a person, so shut your man pleasers and kindly eat a dick. I've never stolen from anyone or screwed anyone over, ever! Funny how mother fuckers like to talk shit about situations they know nothing about, get a fucking life and learn to mind your own business. I cleaned up my side of the street, which i had always planned to do. I could've kept the knife and not gave him a penny if i was a thief, especially after all this bullshit! but i live with integrity like a man should, and i mind my own business and stay out of shit i have no clue about. And I'm sure Jon will update you when he hears from my brother, you guys can all stand his defense lol. If you don't think threatening voicemails, text and all this bullshit up here isn't harassment and defamation of character you're more ignorant than you appear. Bottom line is i didn't deserve any of this stupid childish shit. So you can all go fuck yourself and each other.
 
The knife is in the mail and I've posted a video of me boxing it up to YouTube because my phone won't send the vid due to length. I really don't give a fuck what you ass clowns think, none of you know the details of the deal, or the extent of how this prick handled the situation. I was originally going to purchase the knife for 500 before the trade fell through. None of you morons know anything about my life and who i am as a person, so shut your man pleasers and kindly eat a dick. I've never stolen from anyone or screwed anyone over, ever! Funny how mother fuckers like to talk shit about situations they know nothing about, get a fucking life and learn to mind your own business. I cleaned up my side of the street, which i had always planned to do. I could've kept the knife and not gave him a penny if i was a thief, especially after all this bullshit! but i live with integrity like a man should, and i mind my own business and stay out of shit i have no clue about. And I'm sure Jon will update you when he hears from my brother, you guys can all stand his defense lol. If you don't think threatening voicemails, text and all this bullshit up here isn't harassment and defamation of character you're more ignorant than you appear. Bottom line is i didn't deserve any of this stupid childish shit. So you can all go fuck yourself and each other.

Was this a lesson in irony? Your momma should wash your disrespectful mouth out with soap. I'm sure it could use the cleansing anyways after a few nights with bubba;)
 
The knife is in the mail and I've posted a video of me boxing it up to YouTube because my phone won't send the vid due to length. I really don't give a fuck what you ass clowns think, none of you know the details of the deal, or the extent of how this prick handled the situation. I was originally going to purchase the knife for 500 before the trade fell through. None of you morons know anything about my life and who i am as a person, so shut your man pleasers and kindly eat a dick. I've never stolen from anyone or screwed anyone over, ever! Funny how mother fuckers like to talk shit about situations they know nothing about, get a fucking life and learn to mind your own business. I cleaned up my side of the street, which i had always planned to do. I could've kept the knife and not gave him a penny if i was a thief, especially after all this bullshit! but i live with integrity like a man should, and i mind my own business and stay out of shit i have no clue about. And I'm sure Jon will update you when he hears from my brother, you guys can all stand his defense lol. If you don't think threatening voicemails, text and all this bullshit up here isn't harassment and defamation of character you're more ignorant than you appear. Bottom line is i didn't deserve any of this stupid childish shit. So you can all go fuck yourself and each other.

LOL.... Nice to see the type of person you are. Merry Christmas to you too!
 
That's a lot of swearing... I almost never post on this part of the forum by the way and wont respond to anything else said here, but IrishWolf91... your rant just makes me think you are guilty of something. I don't know what it is. I can't put my finger on it. ... Wait I can. You seem to be kinda a jerk to a bunch of people you don't know. This forum part of the forum can help keep people in line, and honest, no matter if they think they are right, and don't many of us always think we are always in the right?!

Really don't swear as much, it makes you look uneducated. AND if you are uneducated, try acting "as if" and acting educated.

Maybe watching Family Ties growing up could have helped.

Ok, bye. and PS my commas and punctuation is all off. If I was a smart guy like you, I would point that out making me UN-educated.
 
IRISHWOLF91
It hasn't been in my pocket, I've kept it in the tube in my work truck. I have been working in SMITHFIELD Virginia since 630 a.m. and no the usps has not been open here, i can't just tell my boss to go fuck himself because you want to be an impatient self centered prick who doesn't give a damn about anyone else's problems but your own. And I've had literally hundreds of deals on bf and eBay and every single one has gone smooth. Not everyone leaves feedback, i don't give a fuck if you believe me i know what's true. I have a lot more shit going on than you can fathom, so no it's not that easy to just go to the usps and ship it. You don't understand what my job entails, i don't even have time to take lunch breaks. I do 6 to 8 jobs a day. And my boss is a bigger prick than you are. And a decent person would be willing to work with a fellow knife enthusiast, especially if it isn't going to affect you in anyway, in fact it would benefit you. I mean you have like 4 el patrons and I'm sure an assload of other knives, and you know that i just lost my entire collection.


^^^^Nice guy^^^^
 
IRISHWOLF91
It hasn't been in my pocket, I've kept it in the tube in my work truck. I have been working in SMITHFIELD Virginia since 630 a.m. and no the usps has not been open here, i can't just tell my boss to go fuck himself because you want to be an impatient self centered prick who doesn't give a damn about anyone else's problems but your own. And I've had literally hundreds of deals on bf and eBay and every single one has gone smooth. Not everyone leaves feedback, i don't give a fuck if you believe me i know what's true. I have a lot more shit going on than you can fathom, so no it's not that easy to just go to the usps and ship it. You don't understand what my job entails, i don't even have time to take lunch breaks. I do 6 to 8 jobs a day. And my boss is a bigger prick than you are. And a decent person would be willing to work with a fellow knife enthusiast, especially if it isn't going to affect you in anyway, in fact it would benefit you. I mean you have like 4 el patrons and I'm sure an assload of other knives, and you know that i just lost my entire collection.


^^^^Nice guy^^^^

LOL.... A regular Prince Charming. Must be an English Major as well!
 
This thread should be locked, the monkey with the mouth banned, and the rest of us should move on and have a Merry Christmas...

BF is not the place for people like this.
 
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