Irresponsible Behavior

Well, my large regular from ebay just arrived today! It came in a plain box, no crk box, no cloth, no birthcard, and no lanyard post. It was pretty filthy (wouldn't even open all the way), so I took it apart and gave it a nice bath is some warm soapy water. Here's the scales and blade after the bath. Sorry about the second photo, I didn't realize how out of focus it was until I loaded it onto my computer.

I compared it to Haze's thread about fake regular sebenzas, and as far as I can tell, this is real. No Idaho markings, no date markings on the scales, no markings on the blade, so from Ken44's comments and Nyefmaker's history sticky, and depending on if they were even making the Large Regular in early '96 with ATS-34, then I guess this is either what I just mentioned or it's a Large Regular made in late '96 or early '97 with BG-42 steel. The edge is in really rough shape, there's a number of chips along the whole length of it. And, as you can see in the second two pictures, there's a strange indent on the lock bar, right next to the detent ball.

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Here's some pictures of it fully assembled. The Seb 21 handle is more comfortable for me in the hand as well as disengaging the lock, but the Large Regular handle and blade shape sure makes a sexy package. I can't tell if it's appealing to me more because it's a rare sight or if I objectively think it's better looking. The old style clip is a real looker too. It keeps the lines really clean and is less obtrusive, it doesn't draw the eye as much.

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The tip is really off center, but the blade is very close to center, so the grind must be a little off. The lockup is about 70% and very very sticky. Strangely the Small Regular S30V that I have also has a sticky lock. The only sticky locks that I've gotten from CRK, both on Regulars. They each have a small portion of the lockbar face that has a shiny finish... it looks like a high spot on that face or on the tang wore through the carbidization.

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I'm going to send it to the spa with my Small Reg to get both of their locks tuned, maybe they can re-carbidize the lockbar faces? I might practice Sebenza sharpening on that nasty edge, but regardless, it'll get get a factory sharpening at the spa as well. I'm planning on sending in my Zaan to get the handles re-blasted (I bought it used with scotchbrite treatment, which is too slippery), but I'll have to mull over whether I'll do the same to this. These scales look like they haven't been re-blasted in the 17/18 years this knife has been floating around, and it has a lot of character. Do I start with a fresh slate to 'record' only my use? or do I continue the tale already written?
 
Well, my large regular from ebay just arrived today! It came in a plain box, no crk box, no cloth, no birthcard, and no lanyard post. It was pretty filthy (wouldn't even open all the way), so I took it apart and gave it a nice bath is some warm soapy water. Here's the scales and blade after the bath. Sorry about the second photo, I didn't realize how out of focus it was until I loaded it onto my computer.

I compared it to Haze's thread about fake regular sebenzas, and as far as I can tell, this is real. No Idaho markings, no date markings on the scales, no markings on the blade, so from Ken44's comments and Nyefmaker's history sticky, and depending on if they were even making the Large Regular in early '96 with ATS-34, then I guess this is either what I just mentioned or it's a Large Regular made in late '96 or early '97 with BG-42 steel. The edge is in really rough shape, there's a number of chips along the whole length of it. And, as you can see in the second two pictures, there's a strange indent on the lock bar, right next to the detent ball.

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Here's some pictures of it fully assembled. The Seb 21 handle is more comfortable for me in the hand as well as disengaging the lock, but the Large Regular handle and blade shape sure makes a sexy package. I can't tell if it's appealing to me more because it's a rare sight or if I objectively think it's better looking. The old style clip is a real looker too. It keeps the lines really clean and is less obtrusive, it doesn't draw the eye as much.

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20140625_181626.jpg
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The tip is really off center, but the blade is very close to center, so the grind must be a little off. The lockup is about 70% and very very sticky. Strangely the Small Regular S30V that I have also has a sticky lock. The only sticky locks that I've gotten from CRK, both on Regulars. They each have a small portion of the lockbar face that has a shiny finish... it looks like a high spot on that face or on the tang wore through the carbidization.

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I'm going to send it to the spa with my Small Reg to get both of their locks tuned, maybe they can re-carbidize the lockbar faces? I might practice Sebenza sharpening on that nasty edge, but regardless, it'll get get a factory sharpening at the spa as well. I'm planning on sending in my Zaan to get the handles re-blasted (I bought it used with scotchbrite treatment, which is too slippery), but I'll have to mull over whether I'll do the same to this. These scales look like they haven't been re-blasted in the 17/18 years this knife has been floating around, and it has a lot of character. Do I start with a fresh slate to 'record' only my use? or do I continue the tale already written?

With all those longitudinal fractures along the edge of the blade I can kinda see why CRK moved away from bg42. Yikes.
 
To be fair, judging by how it came to me, this knife has clearly seen some hard use and not a little neglect.
 
To be fair, judging by how it came to me, this knife has clearly seen some hard use and not a little neglect.

I agree. Still it's a good example of a "Chippy steel" as opposed to a "Rolly" steel. I don't think you could do that to S35VN. It would just bend over etc.
 
Yeah, you're probably right. It does sort of highlight the cons that the S35VN CRK'ers bring up about the switch from BG42. Hopefully, after getting it some spa treatment, I can learn about the pros that the BG42 CRK'ers always tout.
 
Keep us posted! I'd like to know what you think about it once it's back to spec and gets some use. Glad to see the pound puppy is back on it's way to show dog.
 
Well, I'm still not sure if I should re-blast the scales or not. I'll have a week up in maine to think about it though.
 
Well, I'm still not sure if I should re-blast the scales or not. I'll have a week up in maine to think about it though.

I would vote "no" on the re-blast. Get the lock tuned and the edge re-profiled and leave it at that. This knife has a long history that is written on it's scales. A history of (hard) use as a great tool from what I see. In my mind, it's a little disrespectful to that history to erase it, unless you are planning on it being a display knife only. It's cool to have a knife that so clearly display's it's past, but I could probably convince myself to re-blast it for other reasons. However my gut reaction is "no".
 
I agree. Still it's a good example of a "Chippy steel" as opposed to a "Rolly" steel. I don't think you could do that to S35VN. It would just bend over etc.

IMO It's not a good example when we have no idea what has been cut with this knife.

I used a small 1997 with BG-42 very hard for many years, and never had a chip, and had a Para2 with S35VN chip the first time I used it on cardboard. I've also used my Military with BG-42 pretty hard with no chipping.
The Para edge did come very thin, and I think that was the reason in my case. Hasn't chipped since I thickened the edge a bit. BG-42 has been my favorite knife steel for many years now.

The edge does look odd in that pic. Almost looks like they left a large wire edge after sharpening and chipped some off. Maybe they cut some barbed wire or something a knife shouldn't be used on. Who knows ???
 
IMO It's not a good example when we have no idea what has been cut with this knife.

I used a small 1997 with BG-42 very hard for many years, and never had a chip, and had a Para2 with S35VN chip the first time I used it on cardboard. I've also used my Military with BG-42 pretty hard with no chipping.
The Para edge did come very thin, and I think that was the reason in my case. Hasn't chipped since I thickened the edge a bit. BG-42 has been my favorite knife steel for many years now.

The edge does look odd in that pic. Almost looks like they left a large wire edge after sharpening and chipped some off. Maybe they cut some barbed wire or something a knife shouldn't be used on. Who knows ???

Fair enough, and I'm sure heat-treat and grind are huge factors as well, and we know how different those are between Spyderco on CRK. Still we also know CRK did have issues with their BG42 blades and fracturing, as in how they will not replace a thumbstud on BG42. CRKs reasons for abandoning this steel probably had some merit, though not for all cases.
 
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