Is a SNG really that much tougher than a Manix 2?

I'd suspect the CS Triad lock is stronger than both...;)

2010 Recon 1, $65. :thumbup:
 
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Gator97 said:
Well, I just tried search on general forums. Nothing like that coming up.
I'll search further, interesting who or how credible the source was, folding knife at that price issued as a standard military knife is very unlikely.
I had no idea folders were issued at all.
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there was recently a thread about a bunch of smf's that were marine issued and damaged in a fire. 20 or so, iirc.

they were brand new before the fire, and the op restored a few of them and sold them on the exchange.
 
Thanks for the links!
Ankerson said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strider_SMF
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Although, apparently it was a limited run, I remember reading about that back then, 300 knives, half went to civilians, and their price (civilian half) helped to offset the price of the military half...
In other words price was still an issue. Plus, such a limited run, to only one detachment doesn't really qualify as military issue in broad sense.
Like I said, if we go by those small numbers, there are great deal of knives "used by military" and multitools will lead by very large margin.

That part was interesting "After rigorous field testing, including parachute jumps"...
If someone can elaborate how exactly folding knife testing involved parachute jumping, or what does that prove in terms of knife performance, I'd be very grateful.
 
Ankerson said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strider_SMF

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...es#Bayonets.2C_knives.2C_bayonet-knife_models




The list that was posted here was longer than this.
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I hope some folks do not think that just because it's on an approved list that these high dollar knifes are regularly issued , or that joe average soldier carries a Strider, much less has even heard of a Strider.

It's a huge world out there and most people are not knife enthusiasts.

Tostig

I went waaaay off topic.

The Manix2 is a tough knife in it's class but it is not a Strider.
 
Gator97 said:
Thanks for the links!

Although, apparently it was a limited run, I remember reading about that back then, 300 knives, half went to civilians, and their price (civilian half) helped to offset the price of the military half...
In other words price was still an issue. Plus, such a limited run, to only one detachment doesn't really qualify as military issue in broad sense.
Like I said, if we go by those small numbers, there are great deal of knives "used by military" and multitools will lead by very large margin.

That part was interesting "After rigorous field testing, including parachute jumps"...
If someone can elaborate how exactly folding knife testing involved parachute jumping, or what does that prove in terms of knife performance, I'd be very grateful.
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Like I said there was another larger list that was posted here with a bunch of different folders etc.

This wasn't the list I was talking about. ;)
 
penganon said:
several of strider fixed blades and the smf sng have nsn numbers. Just look them up.
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smf nsn: 1095-00-531-1095

But an NSN doesn't necessarily mean military issue, I believe, distinguished from purchase by individuals or discrete units.
 
There are a ton of them today, we didn't have any knives issued when I was in except the K-Bar and Bayonet. And even then most still had to buy their own knives.

But then that was back in the early 80's.

Just because they happen to be in the Armory doesn't mean they pass them out.
 
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The Manix is not in the same class when it comes to pure toughness compared to the SNG. That being said I prefer the Manix all things considered.
 
i like em both the striders are as tough a hard use knife that i have ever picked up,now for all the flaming...ha ha
 
How is the gerber in that list that thing is a piece of dogshit

As for the topic, manix 2, no. Manix, maybe.
 
Ankerson said:
Aside from my video....

Just comparing the 2 knives straight up there is no comparison, they aren't even on the same planet toughness wise.

Both are good knives, just different.

It is noteworthy that Spyderco is making some changes to the Manix 2 to make it stronger, but it will never be as tough as the Strider, but to be fair not many knives are so take that for what it is worth.
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To be fair, I consider Spyderco to be a maker of "user" knives, that is, a tool that cuts. Pocket prybars or something to drive through the hood of a car might be better found with Cold Steel.

I mean, Benchmade quite literally has over a hundred knives over $500 in their gold class series with exotic materials and damascus steel. Whereas Spyderco by comparison doesn't seem to have any knife priced that high.

After taking another look at my own Manix 2 and comparing it with my ZT 0350CB, I can tell that the Manix would be better classified as a medium EDC knife. I'd leave the hard use to my Gayle Bradley, which I feel would hold up just fine:thumbup:.

Gator97 said:
As far as I am concerned, Strider knives were never an official military issue for any branch. Way too expensive for that. So, yes, few guys use them, who could afford, but if you go by that criteria, then there's hardly a knife that is not "used by military". And it's the opposite, cheaper knives are more widely used by military and civilians alike.
The price tag on SNG is much more of a marketing that anything else.
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Strange. My coworker in the Army was issued an automatic Benchmade.

I figure, In the same category means folders with ~5mm(0.190") thick blades. But blows out of water how? Cuts better or can pry better?
For cutting, there's plenty of folders with steel better than CPM S30V at 59-60HRC, which will cut better and longer than SNG.
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I'd imagine that all emphasis is placed on toughness and reliability. No lock failure, no loose blade, and no amount of mud in the world will stop it from opening and closing. I also feel that CPM S30V is an excellent choice. On the field, I'd imagine that the opportunity to maintain your tools is a rare occurrence. And even then, I doubt the troops would be carrying any high quality diamond or aluminum oxide sharpening equipment to sharpen those super steels like CPM M4, ZDP-189, or S90V.

Also, S30V retains a working edge longer than other steels like AUS8 or 154CM because of those carbides.
 
Noctis3880 said:
To be fair, I consider Spyderco to be a maker of "user" knives, that is, a tool that cuts. Pocket prybars or something to drive through the hood of a car might be better found with Cold Steel.

I mean, Benchmade quite literally has over a hundred knives over $500 in their gold class series with exotic materials and damascus steel. Whereas Spyderco by comparison doesn't seem to have any knife priced that high.

After taking another look at my own Manix 2 and comparing it with my ZT 0350CB, I can tell that the Manix would be better classified as a medium EDC knife. I'd leave the hard use to my Gayle Bradley, which I feel would hold up just fine:thumbup:.
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I didn't start the thread. :D

IMO one really can't compare the 2 and be fair about it.

The knives are just too different and with different uses.
 
My son just finished his 3rd tour over there and the armorer offered him Benchmades on a couple of occasions he said. :confused:
 
cziv said:
My son just finished his 3rd tour over there and the armorer offered him Benchmades on a couple of occasions he said. :confused:
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On the orginal list there were a lot of different knives on the very long list, lots of Benchmades.
 
Strider's first project as a company was to supply Naval Special Warfare Group 1 with WB and BG models in 1994.[5][6] Strider Knives currently makes several models specifically for units of the US Military in the Global War on Terror,[7][8] each with its own NSN number.[4] National Stock Numbers are: Strider SMF (officially - Knife, Folding, Special Mission) 1095-01-531-5015, Strider DB-L (officially - Knife, Fixed, Camo) 1095-01-531-5023, the JB1 (officially - Shroud Knife) 1670-09-000-3920, and the Probe Knife 1095-01-503-7231, built for landmine detection.
 
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