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Is Amazon as bad as Ebay?
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Esav Benyamin
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General Knife Discussion is not Bladeforums all-purpos forum. It is specifically for discussing knives.
Evaluations go in FEEDBACK.
Evaluations go in FEEDBACK.
I don't think manufacturers set up shop through their retail outlets. In my experience shopping on Amazon isn't a bad thing, I buy a lot of things I use at work (mostly consumer electronics that are)hard to source locally). I buy my knives at knife shops like these: -- http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1089879-Paid-Dealer-Members-List
They know their products and can offer help with questions you may have. Yes, Amazon can save you about $3-$5 or whatever, but they simply drop ship your stuff. They cannot do much more than that, and ultimately if saving a couple bucks is more important than anything else then there you go.
In my opinion, it's always better to support the stores that sell knives. If you want to buy a knife, some cat food, a pair of yoga pants, and a nifty poolside Speedo, and some Crocs for the beach all in one place, I guess Amazon is the way to go.
Keep in mind, many knife stores are supporting members of not only these forums, but also support KnifeRights.Org. That might be important to some people.
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I've found Amazon to be a very reliable place to buy. However, there can be some fakes when it comes to crappy items like cell phone batteries being advertised as OEM but they are not. But I have not found any problems with knives. I love Amazon Prime.
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Amazon is usually good to buy knives from. I've had nothing but good experiences with them. However, I do try to support the knife dealers more so now or check the exchange here. If I'm already buying something or can save a good deal of money I'll go to amazon though.
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It's possible to get fakes from Amazon, either from buying from one of their 'affiliate' stores that might be going for the quick buck selling fakes or possibly from somebody buying a real knife, swapping in a fake and returning it to Amazon. Then Amazon restocks it and sells it again, unaware that the knife inside is a fake.
The good thing about Amazon is their return policy. If you get a fake they will usually take it back without any hassle. The bad thing is, some of those fakes are so good you might not be aware you have one until it's too late to return.
The good thing about Amazon is their return policy. If you get a fake they will usually take it back without any hassle. The bad thing is, some of those fakes are so good you might not be aware you have one until it's too late to return.
My policy is to only buy on Amazon when Amazon is the seller and not buy when it's a 3rd party provider.. Amazon has a great return policy but have found that the process can be expensive/time consuming when dealing with 3rd party sellers.
This is very true. You can still get a fake almost anywhere. Much more likely from a place that doesn't specify in knives. I would worry almost zero about getting a fake from our paid dealers because they know there stuff and likely know this scam.
Yup. The only time I have run into trouble on Amazon is with third parties.
Amazon has good and bad dealers just like ebay. If you do your research and buy from a reputable one you should be fine. Luckily with ebay any problems are almost always sided in favor of the buyer so if you know product and find it to be fake you can be made completely whole relatively easily.
Of course the best way to avoid any problems is to buy from our paid dealers here. You might save a couple bucks somewhere else but is that really worth piece of mind?
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I have bought well over a thousand knives on ebay without any problems. If there ever is an 'issue', ebay & PP nearly always support the buyer. Part of my 'success' is that i evaluate the seller as well as the knife. Knives that i know have been faked, e.g. Fallkniven, i will only buy from an authorized Fallkniven dealer, never from an individual.
Ebay often gets a bad rap as being 'full of fakes'. I am posting this to say you can reliably get original knives on ebay if you are a careful shopper.
kj
Ebay often gets a bad rap as being 'full of fakes'. I am posting this to say you can reliably get original knives on ebay if you are a careful shopper.
kj
Amazon is and has been selling this fake buck knife for many months, notice the reviews: In order to view the sale and seller, tworaystore, simply drop these key words into the google search box BUCK 768 Hunting Fixed Camping Survival Knife Silver blade
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After 2 months of heavy research and countless Utube Videos .........I have come to the choice of the Becker BK 7 as my first "Woodsman Knife" . Now comes the tricky part :
1. I want the most updated 2015 model ( I think they upgraded their loose fitting, rattling sheath for a tight fitting much
better one
2. Where would be the best place to buy one online and be assured it's the 2015 model with the better sheath ?
3. Are there any more NEW features to the 2015 BK7 over the 2014 model .
1. I want the most updated 2015 model ( I think they upgraded their loose fitting, rattling sheath for a tight fitting much
better one
2. Where would be the best place to buy one online and be assured it's the 2015 model with the better sheath ?
3. Are there any more NEW features to the 2015 BK7 over the 2014 model .
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What he said. I'll take it a step further. In my experience, the 3rd party knife sellers on Amazon provide much worse service than any of the dealers that support this site. After a few hinky deals, I no longer even bother to look for knives on Amazon.
Post up on the Becker sub forum on this site. The guys there are friendly and have a TON of knowledge about Beckers. They can point you in the right direction.
^This^ - for 'stuff' but why knives?
Amazon is a very useful place for me to buy misc. stuff I don't want to run around to 10 different stores to get.
Stuff I really don't care about, just need for around the house etc.
Things like knives, which are a hobby that I really enjoy, I buy from actual knife dealers.
I will pay the extra 'whatever' for the piece of mind, the customer service, and because they support a hobby that I love with the same passion that I do.....
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I fall somewhere between "rich as Croesus" and "living under the poor house porch".
My heritage is frugal Germanic extraction farmer (read cheap as all get-out).
BUT I still prefer to pay a little extra to small/medium private businesses directly rather than support corporately greedy companies like Amazon that are just in it to make a buck for the CEO and stockholders.
I also prefer to buy from BF supporters/members like Tomarskabars, coyleoutdoors or for discontinued items, via the exchange.
My heritage is frugal Germanic extraction farmer (read cheap as all get-out).
BUT I still prefer to pay a little extra to small/medium private businesses directly rather than support corporately greedy companies like Amazon that are just in it to make a buck for the CEO and stockholders.
I also prefer to buy from BF supporters/members like Tomarskabars, coyleoutdoors or for discontinued items, via the exchange.
We don't have any "knife dealers" in the part of SoCal I live in.
I have a dealer account set up with a distributor that I work with, but I also deal with Amazon for:
Different types of knives that the distributor doesn't carry normally like Opinel and Victorinox or
Out of production knives.
Have yet to send a knife back for a defect, have been happy with them all(probably 20 knives over the last 3 years)
Never bought a knife on ebay. Prices are all over the place.
Best Regards,
STeven Garsson
I have a dealer account set up with a distributor that I work with, but I also deal with Amazon for:
Different types of knives that the distributor doesn't carry normally like Opinel and Victorinox or
Out of production knives.
Have yet to send a knife back for a defect, have been happy with them all(probably 20 knives over the last 3 years)
Never bought a knife on ebay. Prices are all over the place.
Best Regards,
STeven Garsson
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After at least 2 or 3 less-than-satisfactory Amazon knife (and other) purchases, I now try to avoid buying there as a general rule. I do still use it as a data point for price comparisons, but even if they have a knife for a few bucks less, I rarely give much thought to actually buying there. I tend to subscribe to the philosophy of supporting those businesses who support me and my interests. Example: I was at a gun & knife show recently, and while cruising around the end of one particular vendor's table, I recognized him as a guy who had patiently taken the time to answer a few questions for me a couple years earlier (about what, I don't recall). While saying hello, I looked down and saw a Kershaw Cryo, which I had casually been eyeing as a potential EDC. I asked what his price was, and he said $40... but he "might be able to negotiate a little." I just looked at him and shook my head, while handing him two $20's, even though I knew they were/are commonly going for $10 less online. As I explained to him, this knife is a tool, and when I consider that such a tool -- if cared for properly -- could last many years, or even a lifetime, an extra $5 or $10 isn't going to amount to squat over it's lifetime or mine. He kinda looked confused at first, but we talked a little more and I think he understood and appreciated my position.
Anyway, I don't judge anyone for buying from Amazon or any other mass-marketer. But I think the point of your post was more regarding concern over fakes, etc., and to that I could not venture a guess. I've never (knowingly) received counterfeits from there or anywhere, but I did receive what were obviously open-box / returned / slightly damaged / factory second type of stuff. And frankly I suspect that is business as usual for Amazon these days.... and not just with knives. But that's just my speculation, based on somewhat limited experience.
Whatever you decide, best of luck to you!
Anyway, I don't judge anyone for buying from Amazon or any other mass-marketer. But I think the point of your post was more regarding concern over fakes, etc., and to that I could not venture a guess. I've never (knowingly) received counterfeits from there or anywhere, but I did receive what were obviously open-box / returned / slightly damaged / factory second type of stuff. And frankly I suspect that is business as usual for Amazon these days.... and not just with knives. But that's just my speculation, based on somewhat limited experience.
Whatever you decide, best of luck to you!