Is CPM 154 still considered "super steel"

Mithril seems to be the Titanium of the fantasy world it seems to be used to make enchanted items worn by adventurers rarely if ever used to forge a weapon. Now for Adamantium and Vibranium those have been used is more weapons applications and so lets talk about them. It would seem Adamantium can receive a heat treatment since it has been used to cut other Adamantium objects and/or beings indicating some improvements to the toughness and strength of the cutting Adamantium to the Adamantium which has been cut. Vibranium in the marvel universe I have seen used more for defensive items such as shields and armor but I believe there are some with cutting implements made of Vibranium. To my knowledge all Vibranium on Vibranium impacts have resulted in no damage to either and a serious shock wave as a result. I would certainly question if it can receive a heat treatment or the functional purpose of one.

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For 154CM/CPM154 and its variants it is still a "super steel" but just not the flavor of the month anymore.
 
Personally, I don't pay any mind to industry buzz words like "super steel". CPM 154 is a solid choice if you're looking to provide a stainless option to your customers. Pick a few steels you're interested in and make very basic "tester" knives from them. Try to keep all variables equal if possible and test them thoroughly. You'll likely zero-in on one that you like to work with and that meets your performance expectations. That's how I approached it when I wanted to offer a higher alloy stainless steel versus the 52100 that I'd been using. Ended up settling on XHP.
 
Adam Buttry said:
Personally, I don't pay any mind to industry buzz words like "super steel". CPM 154 is a solid choice if you're looking to provide a stainless option to your customers. Pick a few steels you're interested in and make very basic "tester" knives from them. Try to keep all variables equal if possible and test them thoroughly. You'll likely zero-in on one that you like to work with and that meets your performance expectations. That's how I approached it when I wanted to offer a higher alloy stainless steel versus the 52100 that I'd been using. Ended up settling on XHP.
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Xhp is a really popular choice by quite a few makers. I'm gonna have to look into it
 
I think alot of people still love 154cm and consider cpm154 just a bonus upgrade to one of their favourite steels. I see 154cm get alot of love especially vis a vis s30v. People who seem to love 154 cpm or otherwise seem to have come to the same conclusion that I have that s35vn is something like the result if 154cm and s35vn had a baby.

So is cpm154 a super steel? Well 154cm probably isn’t still considered a super steel. I find for a steel to be a super steel (in general parlance) it has to take some quality of steel to another level.

Whether it is the high wear resistance of m390, the ability to be highly stainless while still being good in wear resistance and toughness of lc200n or the high toughness of 3v while still having good edge holding these are generally considered traits of super steels.

H1 on the other hand while completely stainless is generally not considered a super steel because that stain resistance comes at a fairly high price to wear resistance. So just excelling alot at one desirable characteristic of steel sometimes is not enough to be considered a super steel, which are generally thought of as pushing steel to have new properties it previously did not have.

So is cpm154 a super steel? To most people probably not. To me it is a super balanced steel. If 3v’s “super power” is high toughness and Maxamet’s super power is high wear resistance than cpm154’s super power is being a super well balanced jack of all trades steel. For practical use in a stainless steel I am always happy to see cpm154/154cm or s35vn.
 
I always liked ATS-34/154-CM, and I'm sure CPM 154 is no exception.

I'm all for pushing the bounds of metallurgy and developing newer steels with different properties, but I think a very unfortunate byproduct is that people now view these "older" steels as no longer good for some reason. Ironically, it seems like the people who scream the loudest about NEEEEDING the latest and greatest "super duper uber steels" are those who use their knives for little more than opening the next "better" knife's package. I guess to some degree, makers may have to cater to the marketing hype in order to sell more knives, but let's be real; I'd rather have a 1095 steel blade that I can bring back to shaving sharp with a few swipes of a stone and strop, than the latest super-micro-powdered-nitro-chroma-dendric-poly-metallic steel that needs nuclear fission in order to sharpen when it dulls.
 
Drew Riley said:
I always liked ATS-34/154-CM, and I'm sure CPM 154 is no exception.

I'm all for pushing the bounds of metallurgy and developing newer steels with different properties, but I think a very unfortunate byproduct is that people now view these "older" steels as no longer good for some reason. Ironically, it seems like the people who scream the loudest about NEEEEDING the latest and greatest "super duper uber steels" are those who use their knives for little more than opening the next "better" knife's package. I guess to some degree, makers may have to cater to the marketing hype in order to sell more knives, but let's be real; I'd rather have a 1095 steel blade that I can bring back to shaving sharp with a few swipes of a stone and strop, than the latest super-micro-powdered-nitro-chroma-dendric-poly-metallic steel that needs nuclear fission in order to sharpen when it dulls.
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This is exactly what I was asking. I guess I worded wrong by saying "super steel" guess I should've asked "is cpm154 still a highly regarded steel".
 
Drew Riley said:
I'd rather have a 1095 steel blade that I can bring back to shaving sharp with a few swipes of a stone and strop, than the latest super-micro-powdered-nitro-chroma-dendric-poly-metallic steel that needs nuclear fission in order to sharpen when it dulls.
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Absolutely,
People who do not use their knives rarely need to sharpen them
 
Lapedog said:
So is cpm154 a super steel? Well 154cm probably isn’t still considered a super steel. I find for a steel to be a super steel (in general parlance) it has to take some quality of steel to another level.
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I really like CPM154 because of the balanced characteristics it offers, as you pointed out. I consider it a sort of super steel because it took the qualities of 154CM to another level with the finer carbide distribution allowed by the PM process, so to me, it's super!
 
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