Is it an Illusion or is it a Schrade

[Gevonovich]

Have you ever looked closely at a knife and said to yourself, " I should have guessed that was a Schrade." Have you ever considered the knife to have been made by another company other than what is indicated by the markings on the tang? Have you ever thought..I know...

Reminds me of something a 13th century sage once said:

Now we are no longer separated from our source and behold we are the source and the source is us. We are so intimately united with it, we cannot by any means be separated from it, for we are it.

It is thus important to reconnect to the source, the essential nature, that which comes from a place of inner knowing that transcends the material
Much of what we think is ossified in our current paradigms; to challenge them is to open to what is. This new way of seeing opens the gates to a new paradigm shift that will change our very thought process and our relationship with the past.

Many of us feel a need to reconnect to the essential nature, the lineage of our knives, and in that doing, we reconnect to those individuals and their work which has so much impact on what is.

Linked is a wonderful article written by B.K. Brooks
A Huge Round of Applause for Schrade

http://www.oregonknifeclub.org/Newsletter 0212.pdf

He is an example of which he speaks:

Buffalo Cut Co

Do you have an example you would like to share? Any thoughts?

 

[Notthisfalcon]

Anyone else receive "Invalid Parameters" when trying to link to the PDF file listed above?

 

[Foghorn Leghorn Fan]

Thanks for posting this , I don't know much about knife making history , but found it very interesting!

 

[MercyfulfateXX]

Good read for sure.

 

[Primble]

Do you have an example you would like to share? Any thoughts?

Looks like a no doubter Schrade to me Gevo.

Anyone else receive "Invalid Parameters" when trying to link to the PDF file listed above?

Read fine to me and a nice read too. :thumbup:

Since I have been known to have a J. Primble or two, there are more than one of them that immediately made me say "Made by Schrade for Belknap HDW. & MFG. CO."

This is another no doubter and Brett posted a Schrade knife identical to this one, except jigged black handles.:

Not sure why people would say Schrade was a boring company - I think they made some outstanding old knives - in their heyday.

 

[Markesharp]

Nice old "Schrade" Gev and a nice read. I have to agree with Primble on why people would say Schrade was boring, they invented the push button knife.

 

[tstaut]

This gorgeous, but difficult for me to photograph, "Ulster knife co" speaks to me. Every time I look at those scales, and handle the incredible build quality of the knife (it's a tank), it only says one word to me. "Schrade."

Better shot of the bone and tang stamp from the seller's listing

Here's that "tank-like" frame (again from the listing)

 

[Primble]

"Buffalo Cut Co" - A pretty easy tang stamp transition, I would say.

 

[ismaris]

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Amazing how similar the details of this old D-E Shapleigh are to yours Gev. Bolsters, rivets, jigging. My grandpa broke the tip off and ground it into a useful shape, albeit rather crudely. My dad carried it, and now I do. Thanks for this thread and the great read.

 

[davek14]

Great read dood. And a fine OP as well.


I have Yin and Yang out the yin yang.

Kidding of course, great stuff.

Figures Schrade was a machinist/inventor. "Just" working man's knives? Form follows function and defines a certain beauty at times.

 

[Rockon75]

When looking at the limited, USA made, Marbles folders that are currently on the market, I can easily tell them from the Chinese varieties, and they have Queen or Canal Street written all over them. I'll guess Queen.

 

[Bob W]

Have you ever looked closely at a knife and said to yourself, " I should have guessed that was a Schrade." Have you ever considered the knife to have been made by another company other than what is indicated by the markings on the tang? Have you ever thought..I know...

It's fairly well known that Schrade made knives that were branded for hardware and outdoor retailers.

More interesting is the fact that other knife companies made knives for Schrade, including Old Timer knives that were contract-made by Camillus.

 

[navihawk]

This gorgeous, but difficult for me to photograph, "Ulster knife co" speaks to me. Every time I look at those scales, and handle the incredible build quality of the knife (it's a tank), it only says one word to me. "Schrade."

Better shot of the bone and tang stamp from the seller's listing

Here's that "tank-like" frame (again from the listing)

Ulster and Schrade were one in the same at some point I think.

 

[Gevonovich]

Thanks for posting this , I don't know much about knife making history , but found it very interesting!

Your very welcome and Thank You

Good read for sure.

Glad you enjoyed it!

Looks like a no doubter Schrade to me Gevo.


Since I have been known to have a J. Primble or two, there are more than one of them that immediately made me say "Made by Schrade for Belknap HDW. & MFG. CO."

This is another no doubter and Brett posted a Schrade knife identical to this one, except jigged black handles.:

Not sure why people would say Schrade was a boring company - I think they made some outstanding old knives - in their heyday.

No doubt, my friend. I see the genes in that beauty. Schrade was anything but boring to me too!! Thanks for sharing a fine one!

Nice old "Schrade" Gev and a nice read. I have to agree with Primble on why people would say Schrade was boring, they invented the push button knife.

Thanks, Mark! I ran across some fine push button collection during my research. It boggles the mind some of these collections.

This gorgeous, but difficult for me to photograph, "Ulster knife co" speaks to me. Every time I look at those scales, and handle the incredible build quality of the knife (it's a tank), it only says one word to me. "Schrade."

Lovely knife!

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Amazing how similar the details of this old D-E Shapleigh are to yours Gev. Bolsters, rivets, jigging. My grandpa broke the tip off and ground it into a useful shape, albeit rather crudely. My dad carried it, and now I do. Thanks for this thread and the great read.

Grandpa had great taste in knives and your dad obviously concurred. A Schrade ...no doubt!

Great read dood. And a fine OP as well.

Figures Schrade was a machinist/inventor. "Just" working man's knives? Form follows function and defines a certain beauty at times.

I agree with you thought. Much appreciated!

It's fairly well known that Schrade made knives that were branded for hardware and outdoor retailers.

More interesting is the fact that other knife companies made knives for Schrade, including Old Timer knives that were contract-made by Camillus.

It is a long and convoluted history and very interesting indeed! My hope is that many more examples..show up!

Keep them coming everyone!

 

[Bob W]

It seems like not even the Schrade workers could keep it straight. Schrade had a long history of mixing-and-matching blades from different brands' knives.

Most collectors know about the end-of-days knives in which pieces were hurriedly assembled for sale as the factory was closing. But here's a much older example, a Primble Old Timer assembled with a Craftsman blade:

 

[waynorth]

I have two Buffalo Cut Co knives that are quite obviously Schrades, and strengthen the link!!
I will post them later, when I get to my computer.

 

[waynorth]

Buffalo city hall.

A classified ad from a Buffalo newspaper, 1916.

Buffalo is my home town - from 1944 to 1966.

Schrade DNA!!

Older style curved stamp.

Post WWI stamping.

 

[philllll]

WOW Charlie! That second one looks like it just left the factory yesterday!

 

[Campbellclanman]

Hey there Gev. That's a great old knife- and a great topic for discussion. A Shrade all day - love those old scales my friend.

 

[Gevonovich]

It seems like not even the Schrade workers could keep it straight. Schrade had a long history of mixing-and-matching blades from different brands' knives.

Most collectors know about the end-of-days knives in which pieces were hurriedly assembled for sale as the factory was closing. But here's a much older example, a Primble Old Timer assembled with a Craftsman blade:

Very interesting piece, Bob! Thank you so much for sharing this with us! Much appreciated.

Buffalo city hall.

A classified ad from a Buffalo newspaper, 1916.

Older style curved stamp.

Post WWI stamping.

First off, so cool Buffalo was your home town! The building is so impressive with a lot of "Freemason" architecture to decipher! The ad is so cool!

What a treat to see the curved stamp and that knife really is a gem to me, even in its condition.

The Jack is stunning to the n-th degree and talk about DNA! The fact that it has the diamond shield really speaks to me, along with that identical tang stamp to mine.

Thank you so much, Charlie! Very much appreciated:thumbup::thumbup: