Is it just me?

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So the other evening we get invited over an acquaintance of Karen's, and I've never met the husband, so I brace myself to make conversation with a stranger. We get there and over a drink, it comes out that "Sam"is a knife collector. Karen exclaims so am I and next thing I know we're off to the den to see his collection. I'm enthused, and looking forward to seeing some interesting knives, as he said he collects Case pocket knives. In my thoughts, I'm looking forward to examining some old XX knives, maybe some real antique stuff. We get to the den, and there is was; display cases of Case knives. They were Case all right, lots of them. Maybe a hundred of them. Elvis Presley Case's, Johnny Cash Case's, Brooks and Dun Case's, John Deer Case's, Barb wire Case's, and just about every special edition Case that has ever been made. All in glass covered cases, with red velvet lining. There was green bone, red bone, and some bone I had no idea what to call the color. At least anything polite.

"Sam" is standing there grinning ear to ear, so all I can say is wow. I really meant it, the wow. I had nothing else to say. Really. So "Sam"opens up a case lid and says "Here, one my lastest ones!" And he puts on surgical latex gloves from a box there by the case, and holds the box out to me. I gather I'm supposed to put on rubber gloves before handling any of his priceless beauties. After I examine it politely, I hand it back to him and he gently polishes any contamination off with a snow white soft cloth, and puts it back in it's special spot in the special glass covered display case. He doesn't want human hands to touch them. I try to be as polite as I can, but I wonder about it. They're mostly True Sharp, for Pete's sake!

Is it just me, or do you all not see the collector thing to that degree?

I love knives as much as the next guy, but usually when I get a new knife, I can't wait to break down a cardboard box, or whittle on a stick, or something, to see how it cuts. I'm even not above taking some Scotchbrite and deburing the edges of the liners and back springs. Then I drop it in my pocket and use the heck out of it.

I just do not understand the glove thing.

Are those special edition Case's really valuble ? I have to confess I always thought of them as the cutlery version of beenie babys.

Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong about something.

Carl.
 
I collect knives to use, I have four that are in boxes that I dont use because my mother gave them to me. Other than that I use all of mine. I have some stainless blades but prefer carbon. I found a Schrade 890T Blazer new in the box and thought I would just keep it,Nope thats no fun its a user.
 
Perhaps he just doesn't consider a knife as a tool. If that's the case then I could understand him treating his collection that way. Maybe he has so much money, it's not a big deal to him to have every version they make and never use them. I know that I don't have nor will ever have that kind of money, so purchasing a knife just to add to a collection would make me feel guilty that I'm not using it for something.
Collecting things is in our DNA to attract mates and show rivals how much resources we have. The urge is stronger in some than others.
 
Well, I must admit that I have some XX era Case knives that I handle with care so to speak because I want to keep them in pristine condition.

But the glove thing.....never seen anybody do that before.

I suppose it can't hurt to put gloves on before handling the knives but I certainly would not go to that extreme.

My guess is that Sam is a neat freak and just about everything he owns is in immaculate condition. (not that threre's anything wrong with that)
 
Sounds like a horde of the nether parts of CASE'S collector series.
Not much taste or point frankly.

Wearing GLOVES??? Did you have to wear a surgical mask while taking a look too:D How utterly sterile and that's the word.

I can understand anybody buying a knife because they like the look of it-best reason in fact. But this hoarding up of series and themes and never using them? To me it's mental, disturbed:D The reason we've never seen evidence of intelligent life visiting us from other worlds/dimensions is probably because they've chanced on a situation like this, couldn't fathom it and left the world as too bizarre to bother with:thumbup:

I'm with you here J-K, just wonder how you managed to make polite conversation, I think i would've wanted to run for it:eek:
 
Different strokes for different folks. If that's what he likes, more power to him. There's all types of collectors that we probably aren't aware of here, in the forums. But I can think a lot of worse things than being a gloved Case collector.
 
I just do not understand the glove thing.
Nor I, be it Michael Jackson or knife collectors. :D Having to glove up would've taken the fun right out of it for me.

:rolleyes: (And for Elvis & Duke Case knives?? wow...) :(
 
Maybe a chest of Bose customs deserve the surgical glove treatment, but not what you witnessed. I can't see them being an investment worthy set of knives.
 
Oils from your hands can leave stains and even fingerprints on bolsters, shields, and other metal parts....yes, really.........he just doesn't feel like wiping/polishing them off after you've handled them.
Some collectors are like that, what's so hard to understand bout it??
 
I don't get it either. To me actually using the knife is where the pleasure of the experience is. Any knife that sits in the drawer for too long without being used is either sold or gifted away. My 16 year old twins have at least 10 knives each that I have given them and they too use them around the house. The only ones that don't see use came from my father when he passed away. Most of them are sharpended down to almost nothing anyway but I keep them since that is what got me into traditionals to begin with.
 
I think the point is they are valuable to him. I am grateful to collectors like him, by buying those Case knives they are helping keep a company like Case alive. I am in the camp that says I would rather have a few knives that I use, than a bunch I have to have gloves to handle, but different strokes for different folks. Something that is priceless to me may have no value to you and vice versa. Value is all in the mind of the guys who's wallet the cash is coming out of.
 
In a hundred years that preserved Elvis Presley knife will be worth something alright but someone else might be enjoying it. In the present, it is best to use it and and get some from it that way. There will still be collectors a hundred years from now to treasure the patina and 70% full blades on the knife anyways.
 
Well, he's just got a different way of looking at things. Everyone needs a hobby they get fulfillment out of and for that guy, it makes him happy...so who are we to judge in the end?

I am something of a knife collector as well. But I've never bought a knife without the intent of using it, that's me though.
 
I think instead of knocking Sam or his method of handling his knives or his choice of knives I'll just say I'm glad we have discovered another collector. Afterall, he is happy and that's what counts.

Carl -- I hope you extended an invitation to Sam to come over to your house to see your collection. Who knows, maybe another light will go off in his head and he'll broaden his collecting adventure.
 
Is it just me, or do you all not see the collector thing to that degree?

I indeed see it. I have a couple of friends that collect different things than me because they have different tastes. I have a friend that collects higher end watches, and he won't even wear them for fear of damage. He like to show them off once in a while. I have another that collects old cameras. Too rare to be used to take pictures, the cameras and their Leica and Hasselblad lenses stay inside in a chest. He handles his cameras with white cotton gloves to keep from getting hand oil on anything to do with his cameras. He swears that the original leather case on his 70s Nikon is actually worth more than the camera.

I have another buddy that collects S&M, and limited collector's issues of knifes as well as old (unused) classics. They are never used, displayed only. He changes out his display every couple of months and the rest go into a locked chest. At 70 years old, he has been doing that for as long as I have known him. He has a ragged old Camillus in pocket he loves, and that's his only user. If I recall correctly, the grandkids got him started on year for Christmas on his collection and he intends to leave it to them.

To each of those guys, they get their enjoyment out of owning their knives in their own way. As far as CASE collectibles, they aren't my cup of tea, but they are indeed enormously popular. Anything that keeps CASE afloat I am in favor of!

On the other hand, they don't understand my love of knives. I don't have that many traditionals, maybe about 50 - 60, but they all get used. Their point to me is that if I am just using them, why buy nice ones, and why would I need so many?

I am as confounded by their question as you were with meeting your new collector friend. My friends as me, "How many knives are enough, Robert?". A true head scratching puzzle to me, I must confess I have no idea.

I love knives as much as the next guy, but usually when I get a new knife, I can't wait to break down a cardboard box, or whittle on a stick, or something, to see how it cuts. I'm even not above taking some Scotchbrite and deburing the edges of the liners and back springs. Then I drop it in my pocket and use the heck out of it.

The only knife I have received lately I love to look at is a S&M full sized whittler. Just about everything on this knife is perfect. It is no doubt one of the finest examples of production knife making I have ever seen, let alone, owned. Edge grind, fit and finish, polish, walk and talk excellent, and no gaps anywhere. This was particularly surprising as it is a split spring knife. It is so well made that for the last two months all it has done is sit by my desk so I can fondle it. I am pleased every time I pick it up.

But I know that one day, I will just pick it up and drop it in my jeans and off to work I go. I have no doubt this will be the next favorite in the stall in no time. It will have all manner of duties other than whittling with that large wharcliff blade and the two smaller detail blades.

I get a great deal of pleasure out of using some knives, and my traditionals give me the most.

I just do not understand the glove thing.

Hmmmm.... probably just adds to the experience for him. Plus as you know, with sweaty fingers you can leave rust fingerprint on 1095 pretty easy. (I know, I know... proper care, oiling, good environment, etc. will prevent most of that. But these ARE collectors looking after their investments.)

Are those special edition Case's really valuble ? I have to confess I always thought of them as the cutlery version of beenie babys.

Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong about something.

Carl.

Carl, those guys should be so lucky. Check this out:
http://smartcollecting.blogspot.com/2010/09/autographs.html

Hundreds of thousands for a $10 stuffed toy? Yikes!

From what I understand from one of the knife traders I know from the monthly gun show, some of the CASE collectibles get to be valuable, some never take off. He makes his money buying partial collections, putting them out on his table and letting people purchase to fill in theirs. He has strict criteria about everything from original tissue imprint on the paper some were wrapped in to the condition of the original box.

To each his own, I guess. And I know you certainly weren't being critical, not one bit.

But I am more in your neck of the woods. I don't buy my knives to look at, and I only grow to really love them when I use them a lot. They imprint themselves with me in some way, and an old favorite with a work history just seems to put an extra spring in my step when I carry it. I can't describe it; the knife just feels dependable and makes me feel good about carrying it. Now how strange is that? :D

On the other hand, after reading many of your fine posts, I am not surprised that you are as confused by collecting knives as I am. Nothing wrong with it, but I want to use them, damnit!

Oh yeah, got a really long chuckle out of the "beanie babies of the cutlery world" crack!!

Robert
 
OH MY! :D I would love to have seen your expression when you first gazed upon his hoard of collectables! Bwaaaaahaaaa!
 
It must be the ADD but as much as I try, I can't "collect" knives. I've tried. I worked pretty hard at obtaining all the yellow boned GEC's. Problem I have is, if I can't find a use for it, I get rid of it. It drives me crazy to have things just sit there. I've never been able to "collect" anything though. Well, other than books. Hell, the sock drawer has to be thinned out one a month.

I don't knock anyone who does. As a matter of fact I kind of admire people who take the time and care to have a nice collection.
 
It's not just you, I don't understand that behavior either. Then again, he owns those knives so they are his to do with as he pleases. I don't begrudge him one bit for wanting to keep his collection pristine.

The way I see it, compulsive collector or not, that guy is a knife nut. I'd much rather deal with him than with the type of guy who freaks out about me carrying a pocketknife.

- Christian
 
I love knives as much as the next guy, but usually when I get a new knife, I can't wait to break down a cardboard box, or whittle on a stick, or something, to see how it cuts. I'm even not above taking some Scotchbrite and deburing the edges of the liners and back springs. Then I drop it in my pocket and use the heck out of it.

Carl.

This.

I've never really considered myself a collector though i suppose a dozen knives qualifies as a collection, but each one gets used - that's what i bought them for - to me they're just tools.
 
Christian...right on! ...AND...let's face it, this is the kind of consumer that Case and Zippo survives on. I don't begrudge anyone that has a penchant for these things.

...I still wish I'd seen the look on Carl's face. :p
 
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