Is it possible to buy a genuine "Buck" made in China?

I gave you a couple of replies in the 'Genuine 124' thread where you originally posted this question. You may want to refer to there, stumplump.

Dave
 
Thanks Dave ...I'll head back over.
(Didn't know if I should have jump in the middle of the 124 post?)
 
Look at the blade, if the Buck is in your hand. BUCK U.S.A. means just that. An '07 or '08 Buck catalogue will be of great benefit too, stumplump. The model descriptions picture a smaller stars-n-stripes with the according manufacture. Web site does too!

Dave
 
stumplump said:
:confused:Is it possible to buy a genuine "Buck" made in China
or did I get ripped off?
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Honestly, I think you got ripped off. About 13 years ago when I was just getting into knives I got a Frost product called a Mouse Knife, made in China or Japan. It had a painted metal handle, about a 1" blade with a thumb stud, and a key chain on it. As much as folks like to kick dirt at Frost around here, that little knife has gone to work with me ever since I got it and as an industrial electrician it has become my cable stripping weapon of choice.

Due to unhappy experiences with a used and abused Buck fixed blade back in the '70s I have avoided Buck knives until recently when I had a chance to handle a Strider folder, American made. I liked the knife and bought it. It's a good knife. With faith renewed in Buck products, I purchased online a Buck Transport, intending to retire the Mouse knife. I received the knife today and was disgusted to see "China" on the other side of the blade. I now know that Buck's little code for American made is to use the flag symbol.

Why the codes? Why not say outright made in America or made in China? Why not show the flip side of the blade that says China in the advertising pictures? If you look at the knife on Buck's own website, it makes no mention of the knife being made in China although it has no flag symbol either. I guess if you're in on the code, you'd know. If these manufacturers are so proud of their product lines and quaility, why do they play these little games to conceal their products origin? I consider it deception by ommission and yes, I believe you got ripped off along with me. If I had wanted to buy a Chinese knife, I would have gone back to Frost.:confused:
 
Sir?
Ever heard 'caveat emptor'?
All BUCK knives go through the QC in Post Falls Idaho before packaging. Now with the multitude and volumes one will occassionally slip through the cracks quality-wise but the Buck 4-ever warranty covers 'em all. Perhaps I am ahead of myself. Have you tried the new off-shore Buck? Are you upset because you didn't investigate the 'code' fully(your term, simple enough for most folks)? If the knife fails in honest work, grab a catalogue and de-code the USA Buck that most suits your intended needs. And by the way..........are ANY Frost or Schrade or Camillus knives still made here???...or Western or Kinfolks or ........ Fully 60-65% of Bucks are still crafted in Post Falls Idaho by and for Americans!

Dave
 
You miss the point gd, I don't care to have "China" on the blade of my knife. If others do, that's ok with me. I don't see why the manufacturers will not openly state clearly and in writing that this particular product is made in China or whatever country it is made in. I consider it deceptive. For what it is worth, I haven't bought a Frost anything in 10 years or more and don't buy Schrade or Camillus for the same reason. I used to love Gerber knives but don't buy them anymore for the same reasons. It's my money and my choice and I don't care to have China, Tawian or Japan on the blade. Paying a little more doesn't bother me to have USA on the blade. Would it really kill Buck to put "Made in China" in the specs data for the Transport on their own website? Personally, it makes me think they are not particularly proud about having products produced overseas, or to be more trendy, "offshore".
 
Enjoy the blades said:
You miss the point gd, I don't care to have "China" on the blade of my knife. If others do, that's ok with me. I don't see why the manufacturers will not openly state clearly and in writing that this particular product is made in China or whatever country it is made in.
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YEAH BY GOD!

They should HAVE to print it in plain English right on the package AND on the knife itself!!!!!

Oh wait............. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Enjoy the blades said:
About 13 years ago when I was just getting into knives I got a Frost product... made in China or Japan... that little knife has gone to work with me ever since I got it.
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Enjoy the blades said:
You miss the point gd, I don't care to have "China" on the blade of my knife...I don't care to have China, Tawian or Japan on the blade.
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I know maybe I am reading too much into this but you state that you CARRIED and USED a FROST "offshore" knife for the LAST 13 years, and now your upset about buying and using another with china stamp? I am confused... ;)

Years back I bought a Buck Mayo (oops it was an offshore model) (my bad)
anyway I carried it for awhile, and I have to say it was 10 times better than ANY Frost POS... If you truly liked the frost for the last 13 years and THAT quality was good enough for you then definately try the Buck
Try it out maybe you will like it... OR take it back and get a 110.
Good luck Oh, and welcome to the Buck forum ;)
 
Enjoy the blades said:
Honestly, I think you got ripped off. I purchased online a Buck Transportand yes, I believe you got ripped off along with me.
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One more thought and then I will leave...

Where did you think a $13.00 knife with a 420 J2 steel blade would be made?

$13.00 for a USA made knife, but you would spend more for a USA knife:rolleyes:


Maybe instead of feeling cheated by the company, a guy should be embarrased about not researching a purchase???????

I'm outta here.
 
wh4f said:
One more thought and then I will leave...

Where did you think a $13.00 knife with a 420 J2 steel blade would be made?

$13.00 for a USA made knife, but you would spend more for a USA knife:rolleyes:


Maybe instead of feeling cheated by the company, a guy should be embarrased about not researching a purchase???????

I'm outta here.
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$13.00 for a knife is cheap and is cheaper than Buck's suggested retail of $22.00. However, considering the price on a new Mouse is $4.99, that makes the Buck more than twice as much at $13.00 and more than 4 times as much at suggested retail. But price is not the issue here. I do pay more for knives made here and don't mind doing so.

You are correct about researching future purchases carefully. Please keep in mind that It doesn't bother me in the least what other people like to buy, carry and use. Thats their choice and their money. A knife is a personal thing.

My real question is why so many manufacturers and retailers are so quick to point out American manufacturing while keeping quiet about the point of origin of their offshore products? Okay, Buck puts the American flag icon on their American made products, why not put the Chinese flag icon on their offshore products. The quality is up to standard, they stand behind their product so why conceal or make the point of origin an effort to locate? Why not list the point of origin in the knife specs? Spyderco does similar things on their website. The American made knives get a line at the bottom of the description that says "Made in Golden Colorado". There is nothing at the bottom of the description of the offshore knives that says "Made in Seki-City Japan". Why not? Why are they so willing to trumpet American manufacture and so unwilling to mention offshore manufacture? Ka-Bar, bless their hearts, state the point of origin clearly in their product descriptions on their website. Theres no need to go hunting around to find it.

If you have as much faith and pride in your offshore manufactured products as you have in your domestic products, there should be no need to be anything less than completely upfront in your product's point of origin. I still maintain that it strikes me as deception by ommission. In other words, the problem lies with what you don't say.
 
Why not put a giant billboard at each end of every street that lists every detail about every product they make?

They mark domestic products on their website with a flag.
They mark every package with country of origin.
They mark every knife with country of origin.
They maintain an very active presence on this forum, for discussion of their products.

I guess they never considered needing flash cards before?????

Shame on you Buck!!!!!

:D
 
Enjoy the blades said:
My real question is why so many manufacturers and retailers are so quick to point out American manufacturing while keeping quiet about the point of origin of their offshore products?
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I got nothing...

My guess would be though... they would have to go through and label each model individually? they all arent china...
Maybe several models come from 2 places?

Maybe they aren't "proud" as you call it but they "need" to sell these to stay in local stores like wal mart?

I can have faith in an "offshore" item but pride? they are not the same.

I still don't understand I guess... A $13.00 knife?????
Also comparing it to a Frost...Yes it could be 4 times as much but its still 10 times better ;)

Its weird I looked under both my Dell and my Gateway keyboards as I sit here and they both say MADE IN CHINA on the labels... but yet they didnt state this when i bought them...

I am done using computers until I can get a USA made one :D
 
The Last Confederate said:
Why not put a giant billboard at each end of every street that lists every detail about every product they make?

They mark domestic products on their website with a flag.
They mark every package with country of origin.
They mark every knife with country of origin.
They maintain an very active presence on this forum, for discussion of their products.

I guess they never considered needing flash cards before?????

Shame on you Buck!!!!!

:D
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I believe you are a bit over zealous with your excuses.

Yes, they mark their domestic products with a flag. Why don't they mark their offshore products with that country's flag? What's the problem?

Again, when buying online, there is no package to examine before the purchase.

Show me an ad, internet, magazine, newspaper, for any Buck product that shows the side of the blade with "China" written on it that can be clearly read in the ad.

Buck is not alone in this and frequently the retailers omit the origins even if the manufacturer.

What is so terribly wrong about wanting a manufacturer to clearly state where their knife is manufactured? Why should they have a problem with that

I have a Buck Strider folder made in the USA that I'm very happy with
 
wh4f said:
I got nothing...

My guess would be though... they would have to go through and label each model individually? they all arent china...
Maybe several models come from 2 places?

Maybe they aren't "proud" as you call it but they "need" to sell these to stay in local stores like wal mart?

I can have faith in an "offshore" item but pride? they are not the same.

I still don't understand I guess... A $13.00 knife?????
Also comparing it to a Frost...Yes it could be 4 times as much but its still 10 times better ;)

Its weird I looked under both my Dell and my Gateway keyboards as I sit here and they both say MADE IN CHINA on the labels... but yet they didnt state this when i bought them...

I am done using computers until I can get a USA made one :D
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Price was not an issue. Price was brought up by another as to what did I expect for $13. I came back with the price comparison merely to show that the Buck product, while cheap in the grand scheme of things, is actually 2 to 4 times more expensive than the outright China product with a similar sized blade and 10 times the quality isn't an issue for the intended use of the knife. You don't really need a $400 Sebenza to cut string, cheese, sharpen pencils, or clean your fingernails either.

I understand their need to compete and have products made offshore. I would appreciate them clearly stating where their knife is manufactured.

This is not a rant against foreign made products, we all buy and use them, but at this time I prefer my knife blades to be marked USA. Thats a personal choice for me. I don't see the need for them to be so coy about it. It doesn't seem to bother Ka-bar either. They have no problems being clear on the point of origin.
 
I did a little search and found that out of your 14 posts, 9 of them have to do with manufacturers not actually spelling out where a knife is made for you.
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Good Lord...
 
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