Is it possible to buy a genuine "Buck" made in China?

Your point?

That happens to be an important criterion in my selection of a knife nowadays and I am not alone in that regard. Since you took the time to research my other posts and if you read through the entire threads you probably noticed I'm not the only person with the same desire.

Oddly enough, since you mention searching, I went back to the Buck website and read through the info on the company, history, knives, etc. I saw nothing anywhere mentioning imported products, offshore manufacturing, or even that the flag icon means the knife was made in America. In their search box I tried "imported" with 0 results. I tried "offshore" with 0 results. I tried "China" and 9 knives of the Metro and Transport line popped up although the word "China" appears nowhere in the specs, descriptions, or pictures. None of the other Chinese knives popped up however. Searching "Japan", "Taiwan", "Switzerland", and "Germany" produced 0 results also.

wh4f, I don't know if you're old enough to remember, but back in the 70's or 80's the GM car divisions were more independant than they are now and most divisions had their own engine designs and specifications. Before long, mechanics started informing their customers that regardless of what they thought they had, that was a Chevy engine in their Buick, Oldsmobile, etc. The owner's were outraged! Many had bought that Buick or Oldsmobile to have that division's engine, not a Chevy. GM quickly began to explain their new "Corporate Engine" policy that they had forgot to mention to the public previously. Afterall, since GM was one big happy family, it shouldn't matter what brand of engine was in your car as long as it was a GM product. Faced with many unhappy buyers and much litigation, GM was forced to compensate or provide the proper engine to their customers, and to be completely upfront, open and honest about their Corporate Engine Policy in the future.

Is it really asking too much for Buck and other knifemakers to clearly state which products are imported? I am really curious about what, if anything, Mr. Houser has to say about it. I am even more curious as to why they feel the need to conceal it on their websites.

The number of posts I have along this subject line reflects nothing more than my interest in this subject at this time. No different from somebody making many posts about their favorite brand of knife, style of knife, or other concern, complaint, or compliment. I consider it important because I view it as a less than upstanding business practice. If you think it's ok thats fine. If you don't care where any of the products you buy come from, thats wonderful! It's your money to spend as you see fit.
 
Enjoy,,,, I think this is going to boil down to you doing like the rest of us here have done. Pop into this site and ask a million questions. I know I did a couple thousand posts ago.

No, at that time, I had no clue as to the country of origin of a Buck knife, other than reading on the blades where it came from after I bought it. And yes, I have some from China and some older ones that were from Taiwan.

All Bucks, all excellent quality.

Most of us here want to see Buck survive as a USA manufacturer of quality knives.

If it takes having some made offshore to help the bottom line, then most of us understand that.

Your main point seems to be in product labeling and if Buck saves a few dollars in not doing all that extra labeling, then that is ok too, because I know I can come here and post up a question about a model number.

So, none of us here can answer the questions about labeling, and it has been my observation that Buck will not get into any of this petty backin and forthin about the offshore issues in some public forum.

So PLEASE join us here in the fun that we have carrying on about our knives and jawing about it all in a good natured manner.

If you haven't seen it yet, there is a Buck "forsale/trade/want" sub forum just above here that you can put an ad in if there is a Buck you wan't, or one you want to sell.

One of our main GURU's here is a Buck Collector Club officer as well as a Buck distributor and cuts us some good deals.

Just sayin,,,there is a wealth of knowledge and resources here. Sure hope you join in.

yeah,,,guru,,, just using that term dates me to older n dust. :D And I liked my chevy engine in that old custom cruiser. :thumbup:

LarryH
 
In a situation like this, where it is an American company manufacturing products over seas, it's pretty irrelevant whether it is a USA stamp or a CHINA stamp. The quality and standards of the two will still be the same!! Yes, some individual knives come out better then others, but in general, they still follow the same process, with the same QC. Politics and tools should not meet. We have screwdrivers, wrenches, pliers, etc., made in China. Computers, dishes, eating utensils...... all these things are made in China, yet we freak out when our knife says China on it. I'm as big a mark for my knife as anyone, but in the end, they are tools meant to be used. Period. As long as the quality is there, everything else is secondary.
Buck covers all their bases when it comes to letting the public know what is made where. That it is not made to one's SPECIFIC liking is irrelevant. The information is everywhere. No codes or tricks.
"Made in China" right on the box.
CHINA right on the blade.
Don't see it on the picture for an internet purchase? Do research elsewhere.
Everyone LOVES to blame someone else for their mistakes or laziness, yet all need to be held accountable for their actions or inactions. Didn't see it? Fine. No biggie. It happens. However, it's not the company's fault (they put it out there). It's YOUR fault.
Sucks, but true.
I'm out to go look at what's playing on my chinese made tv, while eating off my chinese made plate.

PS. Having some Chow Mein tonight. Good stuff. They call it Chinese food, but it was made here in the US. Interesting.
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In a situation like this, where it is an American company manufacturing products over seas, it's pretty irrelevant whether it is a USA stamp or a CHINA stamp. The quality and standards of the two will still be the same!! Yes, some individual knives come out better then others, but in general, they still follow the same process, with the same QC.

Let's see . . . I bought what turned out to be a ChinaBuck from a semi-local store (90 mile round trip to make the purchase). No argument, my fault for not knowing Buck has started importing knives under their label. The knife had ragged cutting edges, one blade chipped, burrs on the liners, and the blades aren't finished where they bear on the springs. Went to return the knife, store said to send it to the manufacturer as they'd had too many returns.

Couple days later received the same model in the mail (mail ordered and sent to me as a gift). Better finish (not good, not up to Buck standards, but better), missing shield, and both blades rub.

The next day I received a "Buck® Collectors Series Medium Trapper with Red Jigged Bone Handle," again mail ordered as a gift. Nice knife, except for the same blade-rubbing problem and the cracked scale.

Sent the bone-handled knife to Buck for warranty work ten weeks ago, sent a letter asking about the knife a couple weeks ago, haven't heard a thing from them.

It seems to me that these problems are the fault of the company, and that perhaps a little skepticism about the quality of Buck's import line is justified.
 
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