Is it the bulk, or weight?

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There's as many kinds of knives as there is knife knuts, and we all seem to have different tastes. Stockmen, trappers, barlow, peanuts. Different sizes, shapes, weights, and number of blades. Big ones, small ones, fat ones and skinny ones. Just like the ice cream place, there's a flavor for everyone.

But, why do we make our choices? is it something insubstantial like a feeling, or cool logic as to our needs? For myself, it may be a mixture of each. I know my taste has changed as I grew 'older'. From a fairly rugged stockman in my younger day, to a peanut now. But I used to really like beer when young, now it's a smooth sipping whiskey. Taste does indeed change. But I've found that with the new pragmatic attitude of age, bulk sometimes is more objectionable than weight.

This all came about when I weighed some knives. I had picked my number 8 Opinel for day that I knew I was going to be breaking down some boxes, and other cutting. I dropped it in the same side pocket as my peanut is carried in along side of my bandana and Fenix EO1. The Opinel is a light weight knife, much lighter than one would suspect from the size of it. But I found it just slightly annoying after some hours, because of the bulk. I was surprised when I out the Opinel on a weight watchers scale, and found that it was within a small fraction of an ounce of my peanut.

I guess I'm used to the way the 'nut drops down to the very bottom of the pocket, and nestles there out of the way. If I need my 'nut, I know it's all the way down there in the bottom corner. Yet carrying an Opinel number 8 that is mostly stock, it always seemed to be in an awkward spot when I'd reach for my bandana to clean my sunglasses, or the little Fenix to see in the milk crate at the back of the basement shelf I was looking at. Unless I was deliberately reaching for it, it just seemed to be in the way often, or in an uncomfortable position.

Weight or bulk? I've come to the conclusion that for me, bulk is more of a concern than weight, if the weight is about the same. Small stockmen, peanuts, mini copperheads or trappers seem to be able to be carried with a bit more comfort than a bulkier knife of similar weight. Even a nice round ended barlow fits down in a pocket well. Add in other stuff in the pocket, and overall size seems to matter more than the weight. I can only wonder if that's why the Daddy barlow never became as popular as the regular barlow, or the smaller jacks were bigger sellers than the large 4 inch or more jacks.

So, what makes a difference to you, the weight, or the bulk?

Carl.
 
Either one can be a deal breaker for me on any given day...especially taking into consideration the clothing worn on that particular day.
 
I agree with both of you, Carl and Elliott - somehow.

It really depends on the cloths I wear that day and the season is important, too. When it´s summer and hot I use to wear shorts and light pants sometimes even flipflops (they are still popular here ;) ). A bigger knife than a 3.5 inch jackknife finds its way seldom into my pocket.

When it´s winter, like now. Wearing long pants and heavy boots and bulky jackets, I like to carry a regular size Trapper, belt-sheath reqiured Buck 110/112 or any other bigger knives.

I don´t really care for the weight - as Carl mentioned a Opinel #8 has nearly the same weight like a little Peanut. But I carry both. Heavier knives like the Buck 110/112 are also very welcome fellas on my belt.

Most of my carrying depends on the mood I´m in.
 
What's a Fenix EO1 ?

As to weight or size - depends on what I need done that day.
 
I have to agree with the above sentiments, I tend to pick what knife I want depending on what kind of pockets I'll have available to me.

Besides that, what I mostly worry about is bulk. It's only when a knife gets REALLY heavy that the weight starts to become an issue, the threshold is pretty high. With bulkiness however I tend to notice small differences more readily, for example when comparing a 2 blades vs 1 bladed trapper style knife, it's not the weight that gets me on the 2 bladed model, its the extra bulk.
 
Depends on pants and what I'm doing.

Bulk has 2 factors: length and girth. Slender matters. My Buck Duke 500 carries better than my Opinel #8 because it is thin.

Another matter is bolster shape. Rounded and softened bolster slip and slide in the pocket better. Another plus for the 500.

Lastly, I find cross section shape matters. I *hate* the way my peanut or larger camper carry compared to my thin and flat Schrade 5OT (or Duke 500) or even my round and smooth Opinels. I find multi-blade slip joints to have a squared off cross section that I always notice even if the knife is short and light.

My order of prefer in terms of pocket carry is:
1) Thin single blade lockers with rounded bolsters (Buck 500, Schrade 5OT)
2) Light and round Opinels
very distant 3rd) Multi blade slip joints

Note, I end up carrying my Opinels most days lately.
 
Both are a consideration, but the main issue for me is size. For EDC I prefer knives that are ~ 3 3/4". Large enough to hold without taking up your entire pocket. Anything bigger isn't as comfortable to carry; smaller knives aren't as comfortable to use. That's assuming pants carry of course. For those infrequent times I actually wear a jacket anything goes and I can even tote knives the size of my Scagel English Jack with ease.

- Christian
 
Definitely the bulk. I came to grips with the size (OAL)of knife that I find ideal a while ago. It wasn't until I got my hands on a single spring half whittler and realized how much thinner it was than my Medium Stockman. I was smitten :o. After finding the thin, single spring mini Copperlock, even the medium and full size stockman feels bulky.
 
I should add, that familiarity is also an issue. Different knives carry differently. I find it takes about a week for a new knife to become unnoticed.

The Buck 110 takes a bit longer when pocket carried...
 
What's a Fenix EO1 ?

As to weight or size - depends on what I need done that day.

The Fenix E01 is a handy dandy little flashlight that has found a home on my keychain...

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On topic, I think both weight and/or bulk can be a deciding factor. I'm more forgiving of either attribute depending on what additional functionality the knife offers based on my personal use.

-Brett
 
My first knife was a Case Eisenhower ,that my Dad gave my when I was in the 5th grade (back in the dark ages) then I graduated to a Case Stockman. The Stockman could do just about anything. Neither knife felt like a rock in the pocket. Then along came the tactical cool looking knives with clips and stainless steel. They were good knives with thick blades, took up a lot of pocket space but I enjoyed them. Now years later I have traded or sold them all but two that I plan on keeping.
The traditional knife seems to fit the hand and pocket a lot better, look better and feel better in the pocket and in most cases a little less weight. I still have that first Case, the Stock knife was traded off long ago. Have two Stock knives coming in trade the weekend.
Beside bulk and weight the Traditional has class.
 
I've gotten accustomed to carrying relatively large traditionals, like 4"+ stockman knives. So, more often than not, weight doesn't play in to whether I carry a particular knife. And in that size range, bulk isn't really an issue either (also like to carry my No. 08 Opinel, which is similarly bulky, but much lighter). I might toss in a 3rd variable which seems to have been an issue at times: weight 'distribution'. I bring this up, because it seems like certain knives will 'lay' a certain way in a pocket, and how the weight of the knife is distributed seems to make a difference. The knife that comes to my mind is a typical trapper pattern. In terms of overall size and weight, not significantly different than something like my Queen Cattle King stockman, which itself has some pretty good 'heft'. However, for some reason, trappers always seem fall to horizontal in a pocket much more easily, and seem more uncomfortable to carry as a result. Part of this may also be due to the shape & roundness of the pattern/frame/end caps, which may tend to make it slip or settle into horizontal more easily. Whatever it is, every time I've slipped a large trapper into my pocket, I've seldom left it there very long, because I was always 'aware' of it there. I don't generally notice this when I have a large stockman in my pocket.


David
 
Can't stand weight unless I'm carrying it in a coat pocket and sometimes even then.....

Keep it lean to keep me keen.
 
weight bothers me WAY less than bulk
nothing worse than a knife that wont share a pocket :p
 
I tend to carry a 3 7/8 inch stockman pattern quite often, my edc choices must "share" the pocket well, have no sharp corners and not be overly heavy. So both bulk and weight as well as overall closed profile are considerations.
 
I'd say weight is a problem with shorts and pants that have no watch pocket, but bulk can make a knife jump out of my watch pocket, as my Case stockman with square bolsters likes to do. If the knife is secure, it doesn't matter how heavy it is (to a point), but if it is loose, it can be a big problem. In shorts, heavy knives will bang around on my thighs and end up between me and whatever I am sitting on, which is uncomfortable to say the least.

Connor
 
I do think there are many factors involved, not just weight or bulk...and that we're not totally aware of some of these factors.
But, between bulk and weight, the latter is not much of an issue for me, at least not in the range of knives that could ever get into my pocket. On the other hand, bulk (in the many senses of the word) can be an issue.
Still, lately I've come to realize that I have alot to learn as for the reasons why I like (and therefore carry) a knife or not.

Fausto
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For me it's all about the way the knife lays in my pocket. I have 34ot that I've had for 27 years that bothers me to carry due to the shape of it and the way it lays in my pocket. On the other hand I have carried trappers and large stockmen in the past without any problems other than pulling down my work scrubs. Presently it's a barlow and a peanut (thanks jackknife) and for the moment it is just right. Opinels do tend to be uncomfortable after awhile for me. I think I'm just not used to the shape.
God Bless
Tracy
 
It's definitely bulk. I don't mind if the knife is long or weighty but, if its fat it gets annoying. I always have to reach around it to get whatever I need from my pocket. That bothers the heck out of me. All I wanna do is reach in and grab what I want, not spend time trying to maneuver my hand around my knife to get at what I actually want.
 
Both. I don't care for a bulky, or a very heavy knife.
When I say bulk I'm referring to a wide knife i guess. Longer knives don't bother me much if they are not to thick.
 
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