Is it time to end the double action madness?

hank_rearden

hank_rearden

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I can't get numbers but have accidental discharges caused by carrying/holding SA handguns at condition one too often really been that big? And if so, isn't a condition one just one possible situation that doesn't justify a permanent DA trigger? You could put in more manual safety devices if you want, even an automatic safety if the time lapsed between SA shots is too long (still some work there.)

But you will never convince me that you can fire a DA auto faster and more accurately than a SA one, everything else equal.

The Browning P-35 has been phased out. Only the best, fine-tuned 1911 variants can fire as reliably as the current generation of DA polymer frames. Don't you think it's time to have a new generation of SA autos?
 
Oh boy. Sometime in the early '80s, a lot of shooters swore they'd rather shoot themselves than switch to double action auto. Or maybe that explains the answers here. :D
 
I've shot mostly double action handguns most my life. I had a Colt Series 70 .45 back in the 1970's, but never cared for it much. Single action trigger is fine for target shooting, but in a self defense handgun, give me a double action. I'd say 95% of my guns have been double action revolvers, with a Glock 26 for a few years.

The Glock was as close to mechanical perfection as any semiauto pistol can get. Simple to take down and maintain, good trigger pull, and reliable as a rock. In the little over two years I had it, it never jammed on me no matter what kind of cheap gun show ammo I ran through it. But I only sold it because I just like revolvers. And it wasn't a true double action, where if you hit a dud primer, you could just pull the trigger again.

I like double action and have no real use for a single action. I'm not a target shooter anymore, with senior citizen eyes I've limited myself to the shorter range self defense type shooting practice at 7 and 10 yards. If something doesn't go off, I want that second trigger pull on hand right now.
 
I have a couple of HK P7s which I'm very happy with. Squeeze the cocking lever and it'sa
 
I like 'em all ,except for when there's too heavy trigger pull , rough action and long travel . Usually can be fixed , but adds unnecessary expense .
 
hank_rearden said:
I can't get numbers but have accidental discharges caused by carrying/holding SA handguns at condition one too often really been that big? And if so, isn't a condition one just one possible situation that doesn't justify a permanent DA trigger? You could put in more manual safety devices if you want, even an automatic safety if the time lapsed between SA shots is too long (still some work there.)

But you will never convince me that you can fire a DA auto faster and more accurately than a SA one, everything else equal.

The Browning P-35 has been phased out. Only the best, fine-tuned 1911 variants can fire as reliably as the current generation of DA polymer frames. Don't you think it's time to have a new generation of SA autos?
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I wouldn't mind , but everything now is designed with liability lawyers . Pistols have "READ THE MANUAL ..." warning labels on the sides ! :rolleyes: Next I expect they'll have an arrow on the barrel with a sign saying : " This side toward the enemy " . :p
 
I don't carry DAO handguns anymore, although I'm not opposed to them in the least. I carry and shoot DA/SA Sigs or J frames a good amount.

I've also been mostly carrying my 1911 the last couple months, so there's that.
 
Training, competence and awareness are the keys to safe firearm handling regardless of the platform. Their are consequences to be paid for inattention.

I haven't carried single action, (Colt, Gov't Model, Series 70), since my former agency mandated otherwise back in the late eighties or early nineties. (It was fun while it lasted.)

These days either one of my Glocks or S&W revolvers is sufficient to cover my carry handgun carry requirements depending on venue, whether at home or on the road.
 
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