Is it wrong to pray for zombie invasion or some other disaster?

I don't know about zombies as those movies have never ended well for the "survivors". I wouldn't mind an electronic pulse that makes the credit card company loose me :) Some days I am right there with ya.....freedom from work and bills,living off grid. Then other days........Hey let's go to Mcee Dee's for dinner :) I do miss life in upstate NY. Used to get some killer ice storms. Sometimes power would be out for two weeks in the winter. We had all we needed and everyone got a break from the normal routine. Nowadays we just get to pretend we're surviving when really it's just camping :)
 
huh. I'm not sure about how this plays out.

Let's forget zombies for the moment, and just assume some big thing that makes everyone have to struggle.

The most amazing thing about niven and pournelle, ahern, sterling and etc, is the assumption (steve is getting over it somewhat) that you have a sudden armed anarchy.

That the local VFW and assorted groups aren't going to put some upstart "protector" in his place at the end of a noose FAST. That the National Guard is a bunch of pansies who can't function without stuffed shirt politicians. That *people* won't fight.

I ain't so sure about that.

Me, I've got plans for ditching with just my family, but I've also got plans for the community, for the co op down the street, for ... I hate to say it in this thread, but .... some sort of society.

Now, for all you out there who think that the reason we need a cleansing bath of holy fire is because of the "bad guys" - it's not the people who fit in who do odd things like practice wilderness survival, contemplate EOTWAWKI, practice urban foraging or boatbuilding or knifemaking or choose to master the bow. Nope, it's the weird ones who don't fit in quite. maybe not round pegs, but not perfectly square.

Same sort of people as become "evildoers" or criminals, homeless, whatever.

go left, you build a boat and sail it around the world. go right, and you end up as a housebreaker.

The - pardon my use of the term- sheeple - aren't the ones practicing bushcraft, either, yknow.
 
Dylside said:
You missed the point. Without the need to go to a job typing and changing code all day in a cubicle, who knows what the IT guy might become, giving the right circumstances. IE zombie attack and so on. I'm not saying you guys are useless. I'm saying it would be much cooler if there was no need for a job like that. If everyone just got back to the basic living. Wouldn't that be more fun? I worked in a cubicle for seemed like forever. I know that I personally wished for a catastrophy that would just eliminate my entire job title and make it disappear. That's the whole point. If we had some other goal than just perpetuating the technological advancement of material distraction from living, think of how much progress we could make in our own discovery of our own potential. Not to meantion killing zombies would be a gas like no other. lol
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(bold emphasis is mine)
The point is that you don't need a catastrophe to change things for you.
You can change your world yourself.
You want your job title gone? Switch careers, switch jobs, change...do it.

You want to discover your potential?
Do something about it.
Make a friction fire, draw a picture, build an alcohol stove.
Write a how to kill zombies book.
Do something about it.

Sorry it isn't what you want to hear but it is the truth.

Unless this is a survival fantasy board...in that case, strap on your blackkticle knife du jour and conquer the wilderness!
Slay zombies and be your own hero
:yawn:
 
If zombies do invade ( I got a good laugh out of that , zombies invading :D)
you better hope they are the slow , lethargic, original DOTD zombies and not the new type of olympic sprinter DOTD zombies.

Also , one would be better off staying at home , waiting for them to move on before venturing outside.
Think of how much work you could get done around the house ?
 
Ebb, the guy is just spoofing. As I mentioned earlier, we all get tired of the grind and wish for more/different. Nothing wrong with that. He isn't wishing ill will toward anyone and I don't think any of us are. Well maybe our ex's... nah, not really even for them.

I think this "yearning" is the reason people collect old things. And belong to "anachronism" and re-enactment groups. And learn ancient skills. The faster we go foreward the more we feel is left behind.

Codger :thumbup:
 
Originally Posted by Dylside
You missed the point. Without the need to go to a job typing and changing code all day in a cubicle, who knows what the IT guy might become, giving the right circumstances. IE zombie attack and so on. I'm not saying you guys are useless. I'm saying it would be much cooler if there was no need for a job like that. If everyone just got back to the basic living. Wouldn't that be more fun? I worked in a cubicle for seemed like forever. I know that I personally wished for a catastrophy that would just eliminate my entire job title and make it disappear. That's the whole point. If we had some other goal than just perpetuating the technological advancement of material distraction from living, think of how much progress we could make in our own discovery of our own potential. Not to meantion killing zombies would be a gas like no other. lol
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Ebbtide just beat me to it!

You are actually missing exactly what makes the world today (at least in free countries) so cool- so many options! Maybe writing code is the techie's nirvana dream job! Unfortunately, in your post apocolyptic no tech world he wouldn't be able to "discover his own potential".

You, on the other hand, seem to think that for you to make some progress at discovering your potential you need get back to "basic living". Well, aren't you in luck! You don't have to wait for a catastrophe to eliminate your job title- any time you're ready to eliminate the material distraction of technological advancement in your life, just go ahead! What, exactly is stopping you? Go live in a tent if you think that's the way to find your potential.

The truth is that progress and our society as a whole (especially the tech part), is made by people who are realizing their potential. So, if you don't like your job (or your life) walk away from it! Be the man you want to be! Make use of the blessing of living in a free society!

Sorry- you got me excited. I wasted too much time on that kind of "if only" thinking myself.

I will give you that zombie killing would probably be fun- no guilt!
 
Dylside said:
I think that most of us in this forum were simply born in the wrong time or situation for our own idea of fun and quality of life. I would love nothing more that to have some crazy test of will to live and skills for all mankind. A good zombie outbreak would be perfect...
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Yeah...oh boy...maybe our children would die too. Sounds like a blast.
 
Ebbtide said:
(bold emphasis is mine)
The point is that you don't need a catastrophe to change things for you.
You can change your world yourself.
You want your job title gone? Switch careers, switch jobs, change...do it.

You want to discover your potential?
Do something about it.
Make a friction fire, draw a picture, build an alcohol stove.
Write a how to kill zombies book.
Do something about it.

Sorry it isn't what you want to hear but it is the truth.

Unless this is a survival fantasy board...in that case, strap on your blackkticle knife du jour and conquer the wilderness!
Slay zombies and be your own hero
:yawn:
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Ebbtide,

That is the truth but some times some of us need to fantasize a little to ease the pain of a society that is divorced from nature.
 
Codger_64 said:
Ebb, the guy is just spoofing. As I mentioned earlier, we all get tired of the grind and wish for more/different. Nothing wrong with that. He isn't wishing ill will toward anyone and I don't think any of us are. Well maybe our ex's... nah, not really even for them.

I think this "yearning" is the reason people collect old things. And belong to "anachronism" and re-enactment groups. And learn ancient skills. The faster we go foreward the more we feel is left behind.

Codger :thumbup:
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I agree. I think everybody is being too hard on poor Dylside. Lighten up, guys, he's only doing a bit of fantasizing. Don't we all at times?

And Codger,
Well maybe our ex's... nah, not really even for them.
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, you are a class act, sir.

Doc
 
chrisaloia said:
Ebbtide,

That is the truth but some times some of us need to fantasize a little to ease the pain of a society that is divorced from nature.
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Exactly. I actually already did the whole life changing thing. I actually did the stuff you told me to do. This was just a fantasy thing. Just throwing some daydreaming ideas out there. For the whole story of "the great Dylan awakening, click here.

Like I said, and in fact maybe for less stress on everyone else, I should have explained it even less as the old saying "the less a man makes declaritive statements, the less he is apt to look follish in retrospect" certainly seems to be applying here... lol I don't wish anyone's family harm or actually "pray" for catastrophy. Simply wishful thinking for a good zombie/battlefield earth game come to life until it gets old and then back to reality. I love a hot shower, taco bell, and easily accessible online instructions for building you very own time machine as much as the next person. I just like to explore through discussion the fun escape in imagination to a place where Tom Savini shows us the best way to whack a zombie in the head with a hammer while riding a motorcycle through a mall and so forth. As far as my list of things to do to subdue myself, I've done them all with the exception of writing a book on how to kill zombies. Though that actually does sound like a fun idea. :) I'm a regular grown up like anyone else that goes to work everyday and goes camping and practicing survival skills on as regular a basis as I can afford. I don't want anyone to think I'm some wacko who is trying to plan a scheme to knock out the power grid for EARTH. I just have a lot of imagination when I sit somewhere for more than a few hours at a time. Considering that the winter is creeping in and I sell motorcycles, those times are getting more and more frequent lately. No hard feelings wished on anybody.
 
Would mankind be better off if it had to build it's own shelter, grow/hunt it's own food, and know all the skills for day to day life?

I think there is a balance somewhere.

I also think there are too many people that expect other's to provide for them, and are just parasites to society.
 
Hmm...Wish for a post-apocalyptic/TEOTWAWKI/etc. scenario? Not so much.
Wish that people weren't so terribly nearsighted and could see the forest for the trees? Absolutely.
Let us contrast zombies(the slow, brain eating,undead kind) with zombies(the pale, cubicle bound, Redbull drinking kind).
Now, the the undead just want to eat brains, right? No harm, no foul. I eat beef and I'm sure cows aren't happy about that, I think of it as "the food chain, with a twist".
Then we have the pasty, cubicle dweller. He wants to eat twinkies, Taco Bell, McDonald's,(insert your food choice here). Great, good on him.
The difference is, that the undead isn't in someway contributing to the annihilation of wilderness areas(that I know of) for the sake of oil, plastics, minerals, water, housing development, a parking lot, furniture production, and this list goes on...
I noticed earlier someone mentioned the word balance. That, I'll agree with, it's one thing that I believe applies to everything in life. So, somewhere between the zombies is where I'd like to be.


Gautier
 
DOC-CANADA said:
I agree. I think everybody is being too hard on poor Dylside. Lighten up, guys, he's only doing a bit of fantasizing. Don't we all at times?
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You said it, man. Who the hell doesn't fantasize every so often about a good zombie invasion? :confused: Damn, this is a tough crowd... :(
 
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