Is Pacific Salt basically an H1 Endura?

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I have an old school FRN Endura that I enjoy from a nostalgic perspective. I've been thinking of getting an H1 knife of some kind to add to my collection and I like the idea of having a knife of similar shape/size/design as one I'm already used to. Looking at the specs, it doesn't look like they are completely identical but they sure look close!

If I get one I'm leaning towards yellow handle so it stands out more, but the black bladed, black handle version also looks cool! Then again, it's for beach use, so having yellow handle would scare the sheeple a little less :)
 
I don't have an Endura, but I've got 4 Pacifics and a fifth one on the way!
My favorite is the black/black coated one, but I carry the yellow one as my EDC since 2 1/2 years ago, every single day.

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Can't go wrong with it!!

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Get it in any variation and prepare yourself, it's one that will rob all others of their pocket time...

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They are beats! I was thinking PE instead of SE since I read the H1s are kind of a soft steel, and I think I can resharpen a PE much easier than a SE. Also the PE matches my Endura. Then again, I love the look of SE!
 
Basically yes. Pacific has a sheeps foot blade of course. And you are right about H1 being very easy to sharpen, but it goes dull very quickly imo.
And if you buy 2 you could always do a blade swap and have a black blade and yellow handle Pacific;)
 
Maybe its not a sheeps foot, but is a much more rounded tip then an endura. And is liner less which makes it feel lighter(not by much). I had a all black one, really good knife, especially its weight, blade lengh, and how thin it is.
 
Sigsog226 said:
Maybe its not a sheeps foot, but is a much more rounded tip then an endura. And is liner less which makes it feel lighter(not by much). I had a all black one, really good knife, especially its weight, blade lengh, and how thin it is.
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Do enduras have liners now? Mine is around 15 years old and is linerless plastic handle.
 
The Endura4 has nested liners. The Pacific Salt uses the same handle as the previous generation of Endura (the barrel bolt version), made from the same molds. The clip on the Salt is titanium rather than the steel used on the Endura. The spine of the blade has been curved to make it a bit of a drop point, mostly to make the tip stronger. (Spyderco saw a lot of broken tips on the older Delicas and Enduras) You could grind the spine down to duplicate the shape of the old Endura if you wanted to.
 
He means that the tip is not as pointy as the Endura's although strictly not a Sheepsfoot per se (as we'd think on the traditional Slip Joint patterns).

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Not pointy but sharp enough, I can assure you that :D
 
yablanowitz said:
The Endura4 has nested liners. The Pacific Salt uses the same handle as the previous generation of Endura (the barrel bolt version), made from the same molds. The clip on the Salt is titanium rather than the steel used on the Endura. The spine of the blade has been curved to make it a bit of a drop point, mostly to make the tip stronger. (Spyderco saw a lot of broken tips on the older Delicas and Enduras) You could grind the spine down to duplicate the shape of the old Endura if you wanted to.
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You're quite the historian, Jack! Thank you for your great information!

From what it appears, I must have that model Endura because mine appears exactly as the handle of the Pacific Salt! And now that you mention the tip of the Pacific Salt, I do see that slight grind difference. I love the idea of having a pair of knives with the same handle, one in H1 and one in a regular SS, so you have sold me on this purchase! I'll probably go yellow Salt since it makes a cooler pairing. I am leaning towards plain edge to match the endura and also ease of sharpening.
 
Screen Shot 2017-05-07 at 9.56.25 AM.png Screen Shot 2017-05-07 at 9.56.41 AM.png Screen Shot 2017-05-07 at 9.57.14 AM.png Here's my old Endura. I replaced the pocket clip with a Pacific Salt titanium pocket clip for durability and coolness.
 
Yes the Salt uses the same handle as the gen3 Endura. The modern gen4 endura features steel liners.

Also note that as H1 is a work hardened steel the serrated h1 knives are considerably harder at the serrated edge than the plain edge ones. Apparently the act of cutting the serrations somehow work hardens the steel.
 
I'd get a SE Pacific Salt. If you want a rustfproof folder in PE I'd wait for the release of the Caribbean (PE Leaf shaped blade or Sheepsfoot blade) in the LC200N steel, rust-proof but with much much better edge holding that H1.
If you get a Salt knife, big part of the fun is witnessing the awesome properties of H1 in a serrated edge, and sharpening it's not difficult at all (Sharpmaker, Croc-sticks, diamond tapered sharpeners...there's lots of threads here and on other forums about sharpening Spyderco's serrated edges!)
 
IMG_2260.JPG My best work knife! It is an absolute beast! Very easily sharpened on a Sharpmaker!
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Pacific Salt is, IMO, the best work knife that Spyderco makes. I would get the serrated version if I were you. Serrated H1 outperforms plain edge H1 by a significant margin. Don't let the idea of sharpening deter you (as I did for years). Sharpening serrations is a breeze on the Sharpmaker...easier than plain edge in some ways.
 
Surfingringo said:
Pacific Salt is, IMO, the best work knife that Spyderco makes. I would get the serrated version if I were you. Serrated H1 outperforms plain edge H1 by a significant margin. Don't let the idea of sharpening deter you (as I did for years). Sharpening serrations is a breeze on the Sharpmaker...easier than plain edge in some ways.
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Ah! It seems like everyone here much prefers the SE model. Personally, almost all of my knives from all manufacturers are PE and I have a series of diamond stones for them and work them by hand, then leather strops to finish. I don't know if I want to buy a sharpmarker just for one knife. Maybe the answer is to buy a pair of Pacific Salts and send the dull one in for sharpening on occasion! I imagine Spyderco will put a better edge on it than I can with a sharpmaker, and the cost of shipping for annual sharpening for several years is less than buying new equipment. Also an excuse to buy TWO new knives instead of one!

To be honest, I think the enormous H1 logo on them looks really ugly, but I saw a different logo Pacific Salt online. Maybe it's an older model? Hopefully not super rare and sought after so I can buy one as a user?61WWllNBLnL._SL1200_.jpg
 
That is an artist rendering, not an actual photograph. I don't remember whether the knife was ever produced without the H1 logo on the blade. Mine is pretty old, I'll dig it out and have a look.

Edit to add: Mine goes back to the grey box days (date code AG), and it has the H1 racing logo on the blade.
 
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How hard would it be to buff the logo off? Without making the knife look stupid? Maybe a series of finer and finer sandpaper? Or maybe even a green 3m scrub pad?
 
The logo is laser engraved into the blade, not layered on top. You'd either have to take the whole flat down or you'd leave a depression in the blade. That said, it wouldn't be all that difficult to do, but I personally think the logo isn't bad enough to warrant the effort.
 
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