Is S30V a good steel for a dagger?

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I've noticed that some manufacturers are starting to use S30v for some of their smaller daggers(e.g. Spyderco, ZT, Gerber, etc). Is it really a good choice or will the hardness of the steel cause the tip(which is weak by geometry alone) to be even more prone to breaking?
 
S30v will do just fine in a dagger design. It's better to concentrate on the daggers design. For example, a Besh Wedge, invented by Brent Beshara will hold up to damn near anything and will pierce anything with authority. Consider a Rex Applegate-Fairbairn combat knife or the stronger beast the Smatchet. A very large knife but also produced in a smaller version the mini.

In keeping things in perspective, if you should stab or pry something and the tip breaks, well you should not have stabbed or pried that material. The blade design is for stabbing human flesh. If it should break inside the person, their gonna be in bad shape for sure. It's not an outdoor, bushcraft survival knife. Although to have one would be better than nothing at all.

Now the dagger style knives I mentioned above, you could actually stab, dig and even pry in hard material. The very famous Gerber MK II for example, usually made out of a 420HC budget minded "wet far"t of steel, would be more prone to breakage then the others I mentioned. But with that said, many and I mean many Gerber MK IIs have seen combat and used for way more tasks than stabbing a bad guy and came out intact. Just put thought into what you'd like your dagger to do and choose the correct design. If its going to sit in a display case then what its made of matters not. If you want it thin and have a crazy sharp acute tip then reserve it for flesh only.

All in all S30v will be excellent. You know it's going to slash excellent that's for sure. I have and use many blades in that steel with thin tips from quality knife makers and have never experienced breakage. Hope this helps.
 
Daggers have certainly been made from worse things, so no reason why it wouldn't be.
 
I see S30V as sort of overkill for a dagger. It's not that it's a "bad" steel for a dagger, it's just that you're probably not going to see the benefits of such a steel in that application. Since daggers are designed as anti-personnel devices (pokin' folks, in other words :D), they work fine even if they're made out of 420J2.

Of course, having said that, I just spent almost $200 a few months ago for a Cold Steel Tai Pan in 3V, so...;):p
 
Daggers have only one primary job and pretty useless for anything else. The job they have doesn't take much to do and most half decent steels are more than able. Stiff enough to not bend over, soft enough not to break. Best pointy that can take a sharp edge; thin profiles are more efficient. No dagger does any real work compared to knives with more utility. They are not work knives. Same as a sword: just needs to survive the first battle first.

S30V is a fantastic steel but in truth its what properties its given from the heat treatment process that matters. No good if it bends over, no good if it snaps. One battle at a time.
 
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