Is SAK a state of mind?

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SAK's, the little bundle of tools that can solve a host of small problems that fate loves to toss in our way. A few screw drivers, an awl, a blade just big enough to cut a seat belt or slice some cheese and baguette in the back country.

It's been 53 years since I got that first SAK, and its been a constant in my life ever since. Even when I went though my knife nut years, and even though I had the next shiny cult worship item in my pocket to fondle and coon finger, a SAK was never far away. In the pack, the jacket pocket, under the motorcycle seat, or just in another pocket. On the few occasions I did leave the SAK home, I made sure I had the old standby from another era tools; the Sears 4-way keychain screw driver and P-38 in the wallet. I grew up watching dad deal with and fix all kinds of things with that old timey combo, and an occasional paper clip or black electrical tape.

But it took a lot of years as a knife Knut to very slowly come to the realization that those "other" knives were not really needed. Did I really need a pocket knife with three different knife blades but not a single screw driver to deal with a loose side plate screw on a S&W revolver or cable adjustment in an old BMW R60? Or just an easy way to pop off the top of a cold one after the job is done.

I know that my time in the army, the old 'demo' knife, the M-L-K-818 Camillus was a highly prized item, to the extent that the supply sergeant kept them under lock and key. They tended to disappear at a fast rate, and it got so that if you needed a new one, you had a to turn in the old broken/worn out one. People seemed to have a love of a pocket knife with few tools on it. In Vietnam, with all the issue MKII's Air Force survival knives, Buck knives from the PX, it was the humble demo knife that was hot goods 'downtown' on leave for trade goods for a case of iced down '33', or other things a GI on leave may want.

It seems like having a pocket knife with some tools on it is an old idea. The Civil war era saw pocket knives with hoof picks, spoons and other tools. Theres even a specimen that supposedly is from the Roman era with knife, fork, awl/pick, and some other tools on it. I in the old days there were pocket knives with awls billed as harness jacks for the repair and maintenance of horses bridles and harnesses. Good for fright wagon or stag coach drivers. Sailors had marlin spikes, miners had pocket knives with a little wrench for adjusting the carbide lamps on their headgear. In the heyday of the Sheffield cutlery, they turned out all kinds of gentleman knives with all kinds of tools on them from button hooks to pipe stem reamers to scissors and nail files.

Just as there are people who wander through life not even bothering to carry any knife at all, I wonder if there are people out there who think 'wait a minute, if may need a knife, then maybe may need a screw driver or other tool?" These are people who may live life a teeny bit more deliberate, with a itty bit more forthought about what they are doing. A sort of state of mind that is a bit more proactive, a bit more deliberate in being prepared for those little emergencies that life loves to toss in our path to see if we trip over over it. I know that I can't count the times I've been out someplace far away from a tool box, like a rented boat out on the flats west of Key West, or at the far end of a long and winding lake with a balky trolling motor, or anyplace else and having that 'uh-oh' moment where something is not working right, and its a very long way back. But having that little SAK, and being able to get "into' it to monkey around and get things going again in the right direction was a day saver. A day of vacation in a far off place saved by that little red handled Swiss gizmo.

I started our my knife life with a boy scout knife at a young and tender age, and it may have set a sort of mental reset point in my brain. It had the Boy Scout motto molded into the handle, "Be prepared" and it sort of stuck there. Even now, a lifetime later, my old war horse Wenger SI is just a better finished version of the basic scout knife and army issue demo knife that I carried for so many years. After I got over my knife nut craziness, I came back to my default zone, the scout knife/SAK. For everyday life, it just makes more sense to be prepared. And if b being prepared means carrying a few tools, then a SAK is my default. It must be a lotto people's default, otherwise they would not be the worlds most produced and sold pocket knife.

That speaks of a definite state of mind of a lot of consumers.
 
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It’s pretty much like everything else in life. Do we need 85” flat screen TV’s? Do we need cell phones with more memory and computing power than a 90’s room-sized mainframe? Do we need cars that can drive themselves? Do we need computerized kitchen appliances? Do we need anything more than the simplest, most basic versions of anything that does anything?

No.

But somebody somewhere took a simple idea and made it a little fancier, with newer and nicer materials, and somebody else somewhere said gee that looks cool, I think I’d like to have one. And they told their friends, who told their friends, and here we all are with drawers, and in some cases houses full of things we could easily live without. I think we’ve all got a different line between living without what we can live without and having the nicer things we don’t need but (we think) make us feel good.
 
I'll admit I could probably "get by" these days with just a SAK (but which one?) or 4 blade "Demo"/Scout knife, unless I start whittlin', and a leatherman (mainly for the pliers). However, where'd be the fun in that?
Depending on which SAK, it might be a mite out of place at the dinner table ... unless the meat is so dry and tough the saw is required to cut it. (like my mum's "cooking".)
 
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I totally agree that while a SAK/Multitool is not NEEDED, they are so ridiculously handy that I can't stand to leave the house without one. As a contractor, I tend to lean toward the pliers-based tools, but even a humble 2-4 layer SAK can do a lot of work without having to get out the toolbox. I have passed my appreciation of tool-knives on to my daughter. At 12 years of age, she owns at least 5 SAKs and 2 Leathermans. My mantra has always been, "A Multitool augments your imagination". A small clutch of tools, basic knowledge of how to use those tools, and a bit of out-of-the-box thinking can save one's bacon. Then again, it may be that I grew up watching MacGyver as a kid ;)

It's funny. My single blade EDC knife is a rotation of 4 or 5 different ones depending on my needs. They range from $270-$620 in price. I love them. I use them...but I don't dare leave the house without a SAK or LM on my person. Truth be told, the multi-tool gets used 10:1 more at work than my stand alone knife. The only thing one of my OTF Microtechs can do better is snap out, cut, and snap back with one hand. Turning screws, opening bottles, prying open boxes, not so much.
 
There are plenty of traditional "just knife" pocketknives in my carry-rotation, which also includes a handful of Swiss Army knives, and a Leatherman or three.

But when we travel -- whether it's just a weekend away, or a week or two in the mountains -- my default/go-to carry is always a SAK. Same goes for when I head off to play a music gig. Along with my case full of harmonicas, mic, cables, etc., I've always got a SAK along for the ride.

I guess, like Obi-Wan jackknife, the "be prepared" ethos stayed with me long after I left the Boy Scouts. :thumbsup:
 
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I don't remember when I last left the house without a SAK.

A lot of people start out, "In the Boy Scouts..." this, and "I was always taught to..." that, and I am definitely not only happy for you, but envious, in a positive way, of course, that you could be freely given that information, instead of having to learn it yourself.

I started out not very interested in SAKs and multitools. Got a multi-tooled knife to carry (Leatherman Wingman was my first, won it here on BF), and because it was a gift it went straight in my pocket for usage daily, and I realize "Oh, I need to carry something with tools on me."

Well, the "ton of little solutions" aspect pretty much destroyed any idea I had of carrying traditional slipjoints (Stockman, for example) for the most part, and is even now dirtying my view on single-bladed gentleman's folders, though I still like mine. Which sucks, as I really do like some of those old beauties like GEC or the Buck 301, but it's absolutely pointless to carry three blades, with a SAK, with a pocket-knife.

Once I started carrying a SAK, I immediately knew that it would stay there. From when I started carrying it a few months ago, to this day, I have counted it as essential. I "gave up" my Leatherman for it, because I saw what a better daily carry even a large SAK is. Still carry a Leatherman, just not on my person, in my bag or vehicle. My SAK, Police 4 and Sabre Red spray are what I'm patting my pockets for when I leave the house. I once went somewhere and realized I'd forgotten my pocketknife at home. The feeling of irritation that seeped over me, on principle, almost made me laugh, that I was that connected to my knife. I know you, Jack, are not a believer in a big thing that does nothing but be a folding knife, but you surely understand my feeling of missing out.
 
I've carried a SAK for almost all of my adult life. I started with a Recruit and moved to the Super Tinker. Today I have five that are my forever knives; even though they may not get carried everyday, I'll never get rid of them:

- Classic - because you have to have one of these!
- Rambler - an upgrade of the Classic that I fell in love with the first time I saw it.
- Alox Cadet - while I miss the small blade, tweezers and toothpick, it is infinitely more carry-able.
- Fieldmaster - the best combination of tools for campers, which is why I carry it so often in the woods.
- Craftsman - In the 80's I carried a Champion but didn't use a lot of the tools (a fish scaler? Please...). In the 90's and early 2000's I carried a SwissChamp. Same issue (again with the fish scaler?!). Then I found the Craftsman; all the tools I wanted and none that I didn't. If I had to grab only one SAK for the rest of my life, this would be the one.
 
I’d say the people that use them recognize their worth and convenience. While regular tools are almost always better for the job, sometimes just having something “that will do” is good enough. I carried a small tinker in the Marines and it performed more tasks than it ever should have. It’s always the unconventional uses that make them worthwhile.
 
Like your fine Teddy Roosevelt said, "Do what you can, where you are, with what you have." Having a SAK on hand means what you can do, where you is exponentially more than without having one, with the bonus that it doesn't take up a huge amount of room/weight. During my time in the Army, and in the trades it certainly gets used for way more than cutting stuff.
And of course MacGuyver showed us all just how much that could be, which sure didn't hurt sales and popularity-neither did the Boy Scouts and their wise words of preparedness. So yes jackknife, I'd agree it is a state of mind.
 
Ive spent five years working in maintenance, and i also have been blessed with a little girl that thinks daddy can fix anything. At this point, ive figured out that if ive got pants on , ive always got three things: a flashlight, a small pair of channellocks, and a sak.
IMHO, there's a certain confidence in knowing you've got options. Knowing i dont have to walk to a toolbag/box to resolve a problem is liberating. If a toy doesn't work, my three year old tells me to get "my red knife". Then she reminds me that red is her favorite color(coincidence? I think not). If a tag needs cutting, a string needs trimming, or a popsicle needs opening, i reach in my pocket and pull out my huntsman and the problem is solved. If she needs to find a toy or "fix" something, she knows ive got a flashlight and pliers that are just her size.
A state of mind? Most definitely, sir. My grandfather never failed to remind me what could be done with a little forethought and a few pocket tools, and thats one lesson I'll never forget.
 
IMHO, there's a certain confidence in knowing you've got options.

A state of mind? Most definitely, sir. My grandfather never failed to remind me what could be done with a little forethought and a few pocket tools, and thats one lesson I'll never forget.

Thats the whole ball of wax in a nutshell; options.

Instead of standing there with a dumb look on your face and going "What the heck do I do now?" you've got a chance to take something off or apart and tinker with it. Sometimes a wee bit of tinkering can be just the thing. After all, isn't there a SAK called the tinker?;)

Having a SAK/multitool gives you the option of tinkering. Having a paper clip or two and a safety pin in the wallet may help. Paper clips are actually pretty good springy metal, and I've even made a throttle linkage for a 1966 Volkswagen Beatle out of one. It got me home, and was working so well, I didn't bother doing a real repair with a real VW factory part for almost a month. A bit of black electrical tape wrapped around an old credit card is just gravy on the taters.

But step one is just having something to work with. That gives you the options of doing what you can, where you are, with what you have. Just like Teddy.
 
The more i carry a sak the more i realize just how handy they are in everyday life. My wife is a realtor and i went with her for a structural inspection that was done over video conference. We had to get under the house but i didnt have a torx bit to take of the access cover. The pioneer can opener saved the day. It fit the torx just enough to lossen the screws. Otherwise i would have had to travel 10 miles back home to get the right tools. I will always have a sak with me for the little problems life throws my way.
 
Having a paper clip or two and a safety pin in the wallet may help. Paper clips are actually pretty good springy metal, and I've even made a throttle linkage for a 1966 Volkswagen Beatle out of one.
Or bailing wire. I watched my grandpa use bailing wire to reattach the cable to a battery post so our four-wheeler would run. He said it seemed like a better option than walking 40 acres of hayfields back to the house, lol.
 
For ME, carrying a SAK is about having at least SOME preparedness for things that come up, expected or unexpected, in daily life. Sure, the REAL tools are going to be better, but who walks around everywhere carrying an actual toolbox with them everywhere? Plus, with a little ingenuity, you can use the tools in ways that weren't necessarily specified, which multiplies the potential applications of any SAK.

I've seen lots of knife blade-only knives with broken tips, because obviously, the user needed something more than just a cutting blade.

Jim
 
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I don't know if I ever did get over my "knife craziness". Although I would frame it more as a deep interest. I have a deep interest in many hobby activities, motorcycles, metal detecting, outdoor walks etc. But I hear you about the toning it down. After reaching a saturation point years ago, I just fun buy now and then these days. I have had at various times on my key chain, a Pioneer, a Farmer, a Rucksack, a huge red Ranger Grip. My utilitarian back up that seems to stay there now is my green, German Army ? It's in the Goldilocks zone of being just right in many ways.
 
I don't know if I ever did get over my "knife craziness". Although I would frame it more as a deep interest. I have a deep interest in many hobby activities, motorcycles, metal detecting, outdoor walks etc. But I hear you about the toning it down. After reaching a saturation point years ago, I just fun buy now and then these days. I have had at various times on my key chain, a Pioneer, a Farmer, a Rucksack, a huge red Ranger Grip. My utilitarian back up that seems to stay there now is my green, German Army ? It's in the Goldilocks zone of being just right in many ways.

I don't think you ever really get "over it" but it greatly diminishes with time. I'll never get over having a knife or two on me, as its soooo damm handy and I did in fact save a life one day in 1991 by cutting a seatbelt in an upside down old Datsun B210 that was starting to burn. The driver would have died if not for cutting the seatbelt and dropping her on her head and allowing her to crawl out. No, until my dying day I'll have some small sharp blade on me, but it will be on a small multitool like a SAK or my Leatherman squirt. Heck, even a 58mm SAK will cut through a seatbelt.

But all my other passions have cooled a huge amount. my life long love of motorcycles seemed to have dried up apron age 50. Maybe I finally got burned out on being cold in the winter, hot in the summer, and wet when it rained. Now its nice to just turn on the windshield wipers and turn up the stereo with some nice Vivaldi or Bach playing. All my larger rang toys have been sold off and now I don't bother owning any handgun I can't carry very easy in a pocket. Old age brings a newer more pragmatic outlook on life.
 
For ME, carrying a SAK is about having at least SOME preparedness for things that come up, expected or unexpected, in daily life. Sure, the REAL tools are going to be better, but who walks around everywhere carrying an actual toolbox with them everywhere? Plus, with a little ingenuity, you can use the tools in ways that weren't necessarily specified, which multiplies the potential applications of any SAK.

I've seen lots of knife blade-only knives with broken tips, because obviously, the user needed something more than just a cutting blade.

Jim

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That its the whole beauty of a SAK; the odd shaped bits of metal that are the tools soooo often can be pressed into serve in a way not designed by the maker. Like lowering a SAK on a long piece of string down a storm grate, and using the cn opener as a hook to retrieve the keyring a lady dropped while walking to her car. The can opener acted like a small anchor or grappling hook to snare the keyring and save the day. Or using tweezers as a handcuff lock pick.

SAK tools are limited only by the imagination of the user.
 
I don't think you ever really get "over it" but it greatly diminishes with time. I'll never get over having a knife or two on me, as its soooo damm handy and I did in fact save a life one day in 1991 by cutting a seatbelt in an upside down old Datsun B210 that was starting to burn. The driver would have died if not for cutting the seatbelt and dropping her on her head and allowing her to crawl out. No, until my dying day I'll have some small sharp blade on me, but it will be on a small multitool like a SAK or my Leatherman squirt. Heck, even a 58mm SAK will cut through a seatbelt.

But all my other passions have cooled a huge amount. my life long love of motorcycles seemed to have dried up apron age 50. Maybe I finally got burned out on being cold in the winter, hot in the summer, and wet when it rained. Now its nice to just turn on the windshield wipers and turn up the stereo with some nice Vivaldi or Bach playing. All my larger rang toys have been sold off and now I don't bother owning any handgun I can't carry very easy in a pocket. Old age brings a newer more pragmatic outlook on life.
Funny you should mention motorcycles. My love for riding cooled off quite a bit for me right around the same age. I was never hard-core about it, putting maybe 4-5000 miles a year on two wheels. I used to long for the weekends and getting out for as long as I could. But sometime in my early 50’s that suddenly dropped to 1000 a year or less, with more excuses to do something else than ride. With knives, though, I got a late start (like just this year getting somewhat serious about them). So I’ve still got a ways to go before that dies down.
 
I think it’s a state of mind in a way… But for me it comes down to basic tools for basic unforeseen events. I don’t need a good pair of pliers at hand (in my pocket) in my every day life. I have a toolbox ;) I am a big fan of using the proper tool for the specific task, and I usually plan ahead. My latest acquisition is a Wood Camper that have been a perfect companion in that sence. Like my grandfather was always carrying a gentlemans knife with main blade, corkscrew and a file in his front pocket, not to be the tool for everything, but to take care of small unforeseen events.
 
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