Is sebenza worth the money?

I bought a "used" Sebenza from this site a number of years ago. I used it pretty much daily for several years and then handed it to a CRK rep at a local knife show for a spa treatment. A couple of weeks later I received a call from a nice lady at CRK asking me to verify my address and two days later the knife was delivered to my door in "like new" condition at no cost. I can't say enough about how pleased I am with their customer service. It is a well made premium knife. Does it cut any better than my Case Trapper?-maybe not but while I like my Case Trapper and take my vintage Case Hobo knife to work with me so that I can enjoy my lunch, I find that I almost always have my Sebenza in my pocket during the work week and on weekends. As has been said before, they hold their value and having a feeling of quality. For me that is worth the price of admission.

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I like them. I sold mine because I didn't carry it enough. But it's probably the only knife that I've ever found that scores 8's across the board.
 
For me, worth has been more about where I'm at in my collecting. It wouldn't have been worth it for me when I first got into quality knives, when I thought $50 would have been a big investment. With CRK, you will definitely get a high quality production knife. Whether you're at a place where you can make that sort of investment and still enjoy the knife is a different question.
 
Boring. IMHO. And overpriced. I was not impressed. But, many like them.
 
Who makes full custom titanium framelocks for the same price? What are the production folders that easily outclass sebs? I keep seeing these claims without any examples.
 
Who makes full custom titanium framelocks for the same price? What are the production folders that easily outclass sebs? I keep seeing these claims without any examples.

Just went to an online dealer. Customs under $500

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There are plenty other makers at similar prices.
 
I like mine just fine I’ve carried it every day for about 3 years my biggest complaint is the terrible thumbstud so I got it replaced. I wanted a heavier duty folder do I traded for an XM24 and that knife for about the same money is much more finicky than the Sebenza and reminds me every time I use why I like my boring Sebenza.
 
It just irritates me when enough of a knife has been worn away that the blade shape is different from new or it needs to be reprofiled/ have primary bevels reground to get razor sharp. So far, I think FFG Delicas and Hollow ground Sebenzas are two of the best at avoiding the problem of having the edge thicken up on you.

Since CRK (like many others) tend to run their blades soft, they're going to experience this the same or more than other options. Especially when compared to a fully hardened blade with a decent ht. The Sebenza isn't a super performance knife by any means. It's a wonderful piece of art with meticulous attention to detail but people like to get carried away.
 
As with alot of other things, knives have a point of diminishing returns. A <$100 Spyderco or Benchmade will probably adequately handle any of your everyday cutting needs. Anything over that is all about what makes you smile.
 
Interesting response to my interesting comment, but since you seem interested I'll explain a bit more.
I use my knives a lot every day and tend to wear through them faster than most. Not that most knives won't cut in 20 years or more. It just irritates me when enough of a knife has been worn away that the blade shape is different from new or it needs to be reprofiled/ have primary bevels reground to get razor sharp. So far, I think FFG Delicas and Hollow ground Sebenzas are two of the best at avoiding the problem of having the edge thicken up on you.
My only real experience with a blade that got really worn down from repeated sharpening was a Case Barlow. The knife got beyond the re-profile stage and was dangerous (poked you) in your pocket. This happened because I was young, used a knife a bunch skinning furbears (there of course were better choices, but that was what I had and my only knife), and my Dad would use a grinding wheel on it periodically where he worked. Still got years of good service out of the knife. It was replaced with another Case that I still have. But that was before I had many knives, so there is no big itch to use the replacement Case. I even bought a late 60's vintage Case Barlow very similar to my original this past March at a knife show. Brought back memories.

Other than this single experience, none of my knives have been worn down so much to matter for the last 50 years and they still all work just fine if I care to use them. I appreciate you taking the time to respond.

If you have to ask this question, the answer is "no"

It is worth the money once you make enough money so the price is inconsequential.
This is it probably in a nut shell. Kind of like buying an expensive sports car.... if you truly have to ask the price to judge if you can afford it, you probably can't. Still, I look at them more than you think at KSF, shows and so forth and have yet to get "my Porsche knife".

As with alot of other things, knives have a point of diminishing returns. A <$100 Spyderco or Benchmade will probably adequately handle any of your everyday cutting needs. Anything over that is all about what makes you smile.
Diminishing returns apply to most everything after you learn what makes things work or work well. But I do use this argument to choose knives in the $150 area which I believe to be a major break point on the diminishing aspect. But you see the biggest jump in "value" above $50 and <$100 for the most part. Diminishing returns never stopped me for getting something I really want and knives tend to be more want than need for me after a certain point.

its only worth the money if you get that money back when you sell it ?
Since I have never sold a knife, knives are a money pit which I fully accept. There are much worst pits. Thinking boats (and if you fish, the stuff that goes in the boat) are one of the biggest.

I actually have sold one knife but it was to a collector and I owned a special one he sought. Didn't particularly need it, so I sold it to him.

I know that eventually I may well buy a CRK. It will likely be a smaller model as I would be more likely to carry it.
 
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I can't say enough about how pleased I am with their customer service.

I was so pleased with their customer service that it actually encouraged me to buy another CRK! Aside from Therm-A-Rest, that’s never happened with another product of any kind.

What are the production folders that easily outclass sebs? I keep seeing these claims without any examples.

Someone will probably chime in with Reate. No offense to those that like ‘em, but for me...meh.

...an XM24 and that knife for about the same money is much more finicky than the Sebenza and reminds me every time I use why I like my boring Sebenza.

Off topic, but anecdotes like this keep me from making he Hinderer plunge.

Since CRK (like many others) tend to run their blades soft, they're going to experience this the same or more than other options. Especially when compared to a fully hardened blade with a decent ht.

More and more I’ve grown to appreciate blades that are easy to maintain. I used to view the “well rounded steel” as propaganda, but for my preferences there’s truth to it. Of course, “well rounded” will mean different things to different people.

As with alot of other things, knives have a point of diminishing returns. A <$100 Spyderco or Benchmade will probably adequately handle any of your everyday cutting needs. Anything over that is all about what makes you smile.

Hmmm. Nailed it!


Also, supporting my home team <<ie. USA made products>> has gained importance for me and I’m willing to pay a premium for it. I know this forum has an international following & etc., but it certainly adds to the worth of the product from my point of view.

Sorry for the hijack.
 
I'm of an age where the Sebenza 21 will always be viewed as a gold ticket invite into the swanky club I have always wanted to join.

Sure, technology improves. Cost of materials come down as machining becomes more precise. The 21 is a bit of a dated design. That said, I want one...badly. I just passed a personal mile marker of a goal of finally finishing the degree I started on back in 99 I had set for myself. My thought is that if I can complete something 20 years later, I should reward myself with a knife I have wanted so badly for same amount of time.

I'm sure that when you walk throug the Sebenza club doors it may feel a little dated. Maybe a little behind the times. A decour that harkens back to bygone days, both equally out of style yet oozing such old school clout.

For me, pride of ownership is worth it. Buying something that will last a lifetime. Carrying it to remind me of the hard work I put in to better myself. The value for me is not empirical. It is intangible.
 
... For me, pride of ownership is worth it. Buying something that will last a lifetime. Carrying it to remind me of the hard work I put in to better myself. The value for me is not empirical. It is intangible.
I suspect you will be a Sebenza owner shortly and this is the perfect time to reward yourself with something special.
 
Who makes full custom titanium framelocks for the same price? What are the production folders that easily outclass sebs? I keep seeing these claims without any examples.

I recently got a Koenig Knives Mini Goblin and so far it appears to be comparable or possibly better in fit and finish than my Sebenza. It's hard to tell at this level of execution. In my area there are local meet ups where they'll have >$60k worth of knives in a sushi restaurant and people were surprised the Mini Goblin was a production. And I really like my Sebenza. I think it's one of the best looking variations I've seen so far.

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Sebenza looks like it would last a lifetime,and i really like hollow grind on it.Many people here talk about sub optimal heat treat on CR knives.I still think its somewhat overpriced with all these qualities.
 
Had a small sebenza, seemed like a two hand open, not sure what the thumbstuds were for? This was after it came back from 'spa treatment'. I disassembled the knife and found the bronze washers running on the freshly sandblasted titanium, unbelievable. Still not sure what would keep your hand from going down the blade, I see they are starting to address this. Fine gent knife after you polished the titanium golden areas for the washers.
Just my experience.
 
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