Is Strider the toughest folder?

I am really starting to liek striders, and will probably get a folder sometime this year...but waht about severtechs? I know they are autos, but I hear they are pretty tough. i would like to get my hands on one of thsoe someday.
 
Personally I think 3/16" is a perfect compromise thickness for a tough folder. Very tough for sure, especially with the steels and heat treat that Strider uses, but I've never had much of a problem cutting with that thickness, especially because they wisely make the blades very wide- they are thinned out reasonably near the edge and cut pretty well.

MY problem with ER's, in retrospect, is that at 1/4", and not very wide, and not thinned out much towards the edge, they don't make the best cutters and are "on the other side of the line" for me when it comes to general edc utility use. Don't get me wrong, they are nice and have their place, but aren't as useful on an everyday basis to me for doing things like cutting up cardboard boxes, etc.
 
This is a repetitive and endless subject, one that eventually burns out until the next inquiry about tough folders comes along.
 
I agree in an ideal world we'll all be carrying a tool chest to do all the stuff we might face or indeed simply avoid them, but once in a while you'll have do a little hammering, prying or screw driving and you only got a knife one you. So I'm interested in getting the toughest knife just like you want the toughest hammer, prybar or screwdriver to do the job.

Before Striders came along most people could have mentioned CR, Spyderco or Greco as making the toughest folders. Striders and maybe ER raised the bar on toughness, now its up to someone else to do a little raising.
 
This guy has a rather iffy reputation in some circles, but the Farid T-1000S is about as tough a folder as you will find anywhere.

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Do yourself a favor , buy a Prybaby from Peter Atwood , and pair it up with any reasonable folder you fancy . I've made a few pouches that combine prybabies or Stanley Wunderbars ( small version ) . That would be a pretty good compromise at a fraction of the cost . It would work well with such things as Benchmade 520's or 710's .
 
cdf said:
Do yourself a favor , buy a Prybaby from Peter Atwood , and pair it up with any reasonable folder you fancy . I've made a few pouches that combine prybabies or Stanley Wunderbars ( small version ) . That would be a pretty good compromise at a fraction of the cost . It would work well with such things as Benchmade 520's or 710's .
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If we went around doing little jobs prying left and right, we'd buy little prybars and leave the knives at home. But we mostly go about cutting and slicing left and right(at least _I_ do). On some occasions, I need a small prybar. In every single one of those occasions I have had a knife on me instead because of the forementioned slicing and cutting, and occasional uh..stabbing. In the vast majority of these occasions I have only need to pry something on the order of a wooden ammo-box, car door sill, bumper, various wood or other pieces stuck in tires, body parts and seems, plastics, etc. A small, stout knife does these rather well. If the knife can take it, then it's perfect for the job. If the knife can't, I won't be bringing along yet another tool, I will be replacing it with a knife that can. When the job calls for real prying(like pulling two cars apart that are stuck together after a crash, or peeling a bumper off a car that came off the car that hit it, etc.) I reach for the 30lb iron prybar on the wrecker which gets as much or more use than my knife does.

WYK
 
I carry my Prybaby on the split ring with my keys. :)

By the way, I don't think anyone has made a folder yet that beats a Greco. I've got Sebenzas and a Strider and an Extrema Ratio, too. The ER makes the best hammer. :D
 
I've never seen a Greco folder in the flesh , if I recall , they are pretty inexpensive .
 
cdf said:
I've never seen a Greco folder in the flesh , if I recall , they are pretty inexpensive .
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They're not for everyone. I had one for about two days. They're strong but they're UGLY! I like a little more finesse in a knife. If all I wanted was to cut something I'd use a razorblade or a hatchet.
 
I've got a question, I have a Buck/Strider 880SP and while it is tough as nails, it's too dang thick and has too thick an edge to slice well with. Someone on here mentioned the SnG with wide blade and full flat grind. How is the SnG as a Cutter/Slicer compared to a Spyderco Military (as a frame for comparison) btw I don't think there are any folders tougher than Striders, been thinking about getting a Sebenza, BUT if the SnG is a great Slicer I think I may rather have the Strider. Any opinions?
 
I have to add my 0.02, I have a sebenza and use it for everything including prying and is hasent let me down yet, and to top it all off its a great slicer. So you can treat it hard and slice tomatos. what else do you really need. Oh and if no one ever mentioned it, sebenzas are flawless out of the box. The fit and finish is perfect.
 
cognitivefun said:
Extrema Ratio knives might be tougher than Striders.

CRK knives are at least as tough
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This is wrong. Ther German knife magazin "Messermagazin" made a hardcore destruction test with a GB and a ER Fulcrum folder. Knives where put under a hydraulic press to test lock and bearing strengh and were driven threw 2mm construdtion steel plate. The liner lock of the GB took 80 bar, whereas the lockback of the ER failed at 70 Bar. Also the overall construction of the GB is better, because the G10/Ti is more flexible than aluminium. Even if it bends to one side it goes back to its original position, whereas the aluminium handle of the ER stayed in bent position and could not be used anymore. Just the balde of the GB broke sooner as the one of the ER, bacause it is thinner and of S30V which is a powder steel.

The GB won the test, bacause it is the overall better knife and by far more useful. The edge geometry of the ER is catastrophic for cutting tasks, because its too thick. Also the ergos of the GB are much better than ER. GB totally outperformed the Fulcrum. The only really complaint about the GB was it's higher price.

Don't get me wrong, but CRKT couldn't even come close to them. Striders are much stronger!!
 
Shing said:
Torque it hard without it closing accidently
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That eliminates liner and integral locks, get a decent lock back or compression lock.

And if you think a Sebenza is a "tough" knife you really need to define what you mean by toughness.

The Sebenza has a high hollow grind on a thin blade with a decently thin and acute edge, on a relatively brittle and inflexible steel.

That is pretty much the exact opposite of toughness and it also has the torque instability of integrals.

-Cliff
 
If you intend to abuse the knife, why not buy a cheap one so that you can throw it away when it breaks? Personally, I can't imagine carrying around a thick heavy folder like these. Downright uncomfortable.
 
Hehe, I think these are started just to ruffle feathers. I say get whatever knife you like and be happy with your decision.
 
ErikD said:
Yeah, Strider makes some real tough folders. I would also agree with Tom that the Sebenza is pretty close, but not quit as tough as the Strider knives. The only real weakness in the Sebenza, if you want to look at it in that way, is the thinner blade. I would think it would be much easier to break off the blade of a Sebanza than a GB or AR. But the other side of that is that the Sebenza will cut much better than the AR or GB.
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And the other side of that is that I can break a Strider doing something fairly stupid and Strider fixes it or gets me a new one. With CRK you get the standard warrenty of, If you break it you get to keep both pieces. :D

That just makes me not worry so much about the Strider compared to the CRK, which are awesome knives in thier own right.

oily
 
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