Is the Mantis Pit Boss a Good Knife?

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  1. Ribbonz

    Ribbonz Basic Member Basic Member

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    Aug 28, 2020
  2. Yo Mama

    Yo Mama

    Sep 25, 2011
    You will find not much love for it here.
     
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  3. knarfeng

    knarfeng senex morosus moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Jul 30, 2006
    Mantis is not well respected. They were found to be falsifying information on what alloys they were using. Most of us also find their designs to be outlandish. And they were made in China.

    The knife in question is a case in point. I note that the blurb says that the alloy is "CPM 440V". That alloy has not been made in over a decade. And it has not been called "CPM 440V" in even longer.
    Crucible first named that alloy CPM 440V, then the name was changed to CPM S60V. Then it was dropped from production. It was never made in huge quantities. The chances of that knife actually having S60V blade steel are nil. Especially at that price point.
     
  4. Ribbonz

    Ribbonz Basic Member Basic Member

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    Aug 28, 2020
    Okay thanks for the heads up. I just liked the design. I’ll take a pass and keep looking.
     
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  5. jeffsenpai

    jeffsenpai Gold Member Gold Member

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    Feb 24, 2010
    Mantis is not well received on Bladeforums. Long memories here of when the owner was less than reputable. They are essentially a low tier, foreign production knife company. Exotic designs. Honestly I am surprised the brand is still around, given that they have been producing the same designs for the last ten years or so.

    I still have a small place in my heart for Mantis since they were among the first knives I bought on getting into the hobby.
     
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  6. Planterz

    Planterz

    Mar 26, 2004
    Mantis one of the least respected knife companies 'round here. The owner, Jared West, had the brilliant idea of having the fanboys (the so-called Mantis Militia) on his forum spam this forum with posts about how great his knives were. Obviously that didn't go over well. Knarfang already covered the issue about the authenticity of the steel. I'll add to that the fact that Mantis, as a company, hasn't existed for a number of years now, so the fact that there's apparently still Mantis knives in stock somewhere should say plenty about the quality of them.

    After Mantis went down the toilet, Jared West forme QU4RTERM4STER or however the #$^% the stupid thing was spelled. Some designs carried over, some were new, and some were obvious rip-offs of come custom makers' designs. They claimed to have a huge, impressive knife museum, as well as a state-of-the-art manufacturing facility, at an address in Texas that obviously couldn't house either, and the machining equipment footage they advertised exactly matched that as advertised by a company in China, yet they claimed that they were made in the USA. Many dealers that sold Quartermaster knives dropped the "Made in USA" claim in their descriptions, some stopped selling them altogether.

    Last I heard, Jared West was running a car wash. He also completely screwed over his dad, but I can't remember the details of that story.

    So, you might like the design, but you'd be buying a knife of questionable quality, dubious materials including mystery steel, and without any expectation of warranty or repair service. I won't question your taste, but that knife might be one of the least unergonomic of his designs. Most look like they were designed specifically to be as uncomfortable and painful as possible to use.
     
  7. Ribbonz

    Ribbonz Basic Member Basic Member

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    Aug 28, 2020
    Oh wow, I didn’t know all that. Glad I checked here first.
     
  8. JeremiahWeaver09

    JeremiahWeaver09

    Nov 13, 2009
  9. Rhinoknives1

    Rhinoknives1 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 1, 2013
    It also shows a Wily E. Coyote, knife of theirs.. Need we say more?:rolleyes:
     
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  10. Planterz

    Planterz

    Mar 26, 2004
    The Kizer Mini Sheepdog isn't entirely dissimilar to the Mantis Pit Boss. Civivi Mini Bullmastiff. There's actually quite a few different knives out there with a short, stout, sheepsfoot/cleaver style blade. It just depends on how much you're willing to spend. And of course, for breaking down boxes, there's nothing wrong and a lot of things right with a Gerber EAB or similar folding utility blade knife.
     
  11. goldie

    goldie

    Feb 18, 2000
    You can also search quartermaster knives and theres miles of negative words written about them.
     
  12. braillediver

    braillediver Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 6, 2007
    The Cold Steel Tuff Lite actually looks pretty good ergonomically, with a .11" thick blade it should be a nice slicer and is at great price.
     
  13. skyhorse

    skyhorse Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 30, 2010
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  14. Steven65

    Steven65 Traditional Hog Platinum Member

    Mar 11, 2008
    Those were the days!!;)
     
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  15. BD_01

    BD_01 Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 9, 2016
    @Planterz,
    Thank you for that concise summary!
    It should be a sticky somewhere!

    Having only been around here a few years, I was aware of some of the story. I never got around to searching all the old posts to put it together in context.

    Thanks again.
     
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  16. stevekolt

    stevekolt Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 9, 2007
    What bothers me a bit more is that BHQ continues to list it as CPM 440V...
     
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  17. Rhinoknives1

    Rhinoknives1 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 1, 2013
    I’d never buy anything from BHQ or anyone else selling mantis or Quartermaster ..
     
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  18. goldie

    goldie

    Feb 18, 2000
    Planterz; he moved the declassified security system, think tanks, multi level museum and all the other Norad technology to the car wash; here he is in one of his state of the art planning and development outfits [​IMG]
     
  19. Planterz

    Planterz

    Mar 26, 2004
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  20. JokersFaceLifter

    JokersFaceLifter

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    Jan 6, 2016
    i hear that, i bought a knife expecting it to come in the steel they said it would, but elmax showed up instead
     

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