Is the roller lock stronger than the liner locks?

The Rolling Lock is rock solid. In fact over in the general forum someone pulled up an old thread where an individual beat the hell out of numerous knives. They had several different types of locks. It was interesting reading. I have two Rolling Locks and I can tell you they are built like a tank. Spyderco was looking at licensing the Rolling Lock a few years ago, if I am not mistaken. There are a couple of different numbers floating around concerning how much force it took to break a Rolling Lock. It held together much longer than the linerlock. I personally think that the new locks coming out of knife factories are much better than the liner lock ie: Rolling Lock, Axis, Arc and Compression locks. Time will tell if I am correct. This is just what I think; who am I anyway, what do I know? I'm probably wrong.
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[This message has been edited by Easyrider (edited 08-26-2000).]
 
The Rolling Lock is so far ahead of ANY linerlock it's not even funny, both in peak strength and in resistance to being unlocked via sudden shock or other accidental means.

The Sebenza-type integral lock is in the same class as the Rolling Lock as long as you're actually squeezing the grip tight and reinforcing it.

Many linerlocks can be unlocked just by white-knuckling and getting the flesh of your forefinger into the release. The integral locks don't do that.

The CRKTs and Gerbers that use a secondary safety switch to "lock down" the linerlock are better, with lock strength possibly rivaling the Rolling Lock, BM Axis or Sebenza. But it takes a second manual stroke to engage, you might not have the time in a real hairball close-range "Quentin Tarantino moment".

The Rolling Lock and Axis are the current kings, and I don't like BM's designs or current quality control levels. The Axis is often a bit smoother, the Rolling is at least theoretically stronger and the latest specimens have been smoother than earlier ones.

My daily carry is a Sifu with the Rolling Lock. I consider it the best fighting folder made today, bar none.

Jim
 
Yep, I agree, the rolling lock and axis lock are definitely tops in my book, especially since the newer REKATs are featuring a much smoother rolling lock. Integral locks seem well-proven as well. All 3 locks are not just stronger, but much more reliable than liner locks. I haven't bought a liner lock in years, and continue to see no reason why I should.

The compression and Arc locks are too new to draw conclusions about yet, but both hold a lot of promise.

Joe
 
I wish I had something more meaningful to say, but Jim March's first six sentences and his last one summed my feelings up quite nicely. Well said Jim.


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Jim :

Originally posted by Jim March:
The Rolling Lock is so far ahead of ANY linerlock it's not even funny, both in peak strength and in resistance to being unlocked via sudden shock or other accidental means.
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Not all liner locks are created equal. The Strider guys have posted specs on thier folder that are higher than the Rolling Lock ones.

-Cliff
 
Well, the proof is in the pudding - let's see a head to head.

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Most liner locks are plenty strong if they don't release. The problem with liner locks is reliability.

[This message has been edited by Steve Harvey (edited 08-29-2000).]
 
Since Sal owns the "CRUSHER", or what ever the name is of his knife/lock destroying device is, and he was willing to licnese the rolling lock, I would put a lot of good money on the Rolling lock LONG before ANY liner type lock.

In my testing the Axis and Rolling lock are tops. Problem is my testing is not as scientific as other testing but I know what I like.

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Cliff, I've not seen the Strider folders yet. To the best of my knowlege, there's actually four "linerlock variants" out there:

"Standard": same as the AFCK, fr'instance.

"Reinforced standard": CRKT or Gerber with a secondary safety latch, what CRKT calls the "LAWKS".

"Integral": same as Sebenza. I consider this far and away the best, close to if not equal with the Axis and Roller.

"Microtech solid bar liner": they use a single massive unbendable bar as strong as the blade steel, and swing it into locking position via a small coil spring. It pivots on an axle pin.

If the Strider lock is similar to your plain-jane linerlock as found on the AFCK...then unless they've done something real clever, they could suffer from the "white knuckle release" problem even if raw strength measured in weight and a vice is good.

On the other hand, if Strider is planning a 6" monster, you can be sure I'd give them a closer examination.

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Jim
 
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